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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 7321698" data-attributes="member: 15700">Earlier I mentioned how I would like to see the core four iconic D&amp;D classes, and then make all subclasses as a set of occupational packages (like 5e feats on steroids).&nbsp; Each of the four core classes gets a class feature on the odd levels, and each occupational package gives you a feature at every even level.Everyone loves lists.&nbsp; So here is how I'd probably do it, with the following packages and the prerequisites to select each of these packages (commander is like a warlord, and templar is like a witch hunter, and beserker is like a barbarian (barbarian is a background not a class <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> ):Occupation Package&nbsp; &nbsp; Prerequisiteabjurer&nbsp; &nbsp; INT 13, magic useralchemist&nbsp; &nbsp; INT 13arcane archer&nbsp; &nbsp; INT 13, fighter, rogue&nbsp; arcane magic&nbsp; &nbsp; INT 13, fighter, rogue, clericartificer&nbsp; &nbsp; INT 13assassin&nbsp; &nbsp; DEX 13, fighter, roguebard&nbsp; &nbsp; CHA 13beast master&nbsp; &nbsp; WIS 13beserker&nbsp; &nbsp; CON 13bounty hunter&nbsp; &nbsp; INT 13bushi&nbsp; &nbsp; WIS 13, fighter commander&nbsp; &nbsp; CHA 13conjurer&nbsp; &nbsp; INT 13, magic userdefender&nbsp; &nbsp; CON 13, fighterdivine magic&nbsp; &nbsp; WIS 13, fighter, rogue, magic userdiviner&nbsp; &nbsp; INT 13, magic userdreamwalker&nbsp; &nbsp; WIS 13druid&nbsp; &nbsp; WIS 13, clericenchanter&nbsp; &nbsp; INT 13, magic userevoker&nbsp; &nbsp; INT 13, magic userpriest, forge&nbsp; &nbsp; WIS 13, clericgladiator&nbsp; &nbsp; STR 13, fighterpriest, grave&nbsp; &nbsp; WIS 13, clericillusionist&nbsp; &nbsp; INT 13, magic userjester&nbsp; &nbsp; CHA 13, rogue, magic userkensei&nbsp; &nbsp; DEX 13, fighter&nbsp; knight&nbsp; &nbsp; CON 13, fightermonk, way of the elements&nbsp; &nbsp; WIS 13, fighter, clericmonk, way of the fist&nbsp; &nbsp; DEX 13, fighter, clericnecromancer&nbsp; &nbsp; INT 13, magic user, clericninja&nbsp; &nbsp; DEX 13, fighter, rogueoutlaw&nbsp; &nbsp; DEX 13, fighter, roguepaladin&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; CHA 13, fighter, clericpirate&nbsp; &nbsp; DEX 13, fighter, roguepsion&nbsp; &nbsp; WIS 13ranger&nbsp; &nbsp; WIS 13, fighter, roguerune magic&nbsp; &nbsp; INT 13, magic usersamurai&nbsp; &nbsp; CHA 13, fighter scout&nbsp; &nbsp; DEX 13, fighter, rogueshaman&nbsp; &nbsp; WIS 13, clericshapeshifter&nbsp; &nbsp; WIS 13sorcerer&nbsp; &nbsp; INT 13, magic userspirit blade&nbsp; &nbsp; INT 13summoner&nbsp; &nbsp; INT 13, cleric, magic userswashbuckler&nbsp; &nbsp; DEX 13, fighter, roguetemplar&nbsp; &nbsp; INT 13, fighter, clerictotem warrior&nbsp; &nbsp; CON 13, fightertransmuter&nbsp; &nbsp; INT 13, magic userundead hunter&nbsp; &nbsp; WIS 13, fighter, clericwarlock&nbsp; &nbsp; CHA 13witch&nbsp; &nbsp; WIS 13priest, knowledge&nbsp; &nbsp; WIS 13, clericpriest, life&nbsp; &nbsp; WIS 13, clericpriest, light&nbsp; &nbsp; WIS 13, clericpriest, tempest&nbsp; &nbsp; WIS 13, clericpriest, trickery&nbsp; &nbsp; DEX 13, clericpriest, war&nbsp; &nbsp; STR 13, clericExample:If you select a cleric class, you don't automatically get the domains.&nbsp; You would have to choose them.&nbsp; So you could choose a cleric class (and get the core spellcasting features), but instead of getting a domain, maybe you choose the bard occupational package.&nbsp; Essentially you would have the basic spellcasting function of a cleric, plus additional abilities around inspiration that the bard occupation brings.&nbsp; Or you could choose the beserker package and have the core spellcasting of the cleric, but the rage and resistance abilities that a berserker package would give.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 7321698, member: 15700"] Earlier I mentioned how I would like to see the core four iconic D&D classes, and then make all subclasses as a set of occupational packages (like 5e feats on steroids). Each of the four core classes gets a class feature on the odd levels, and each occupational package gives you a feature at every even level. Everyone loves lists. So here is how I'd probably do it, with the following packages and the prerequisites to select each of these packages (commander is like a warlord, and templar is like a witch hunter, and beserker is like a barbarian (barbarian is a background not a class ;) ): Occupation Package Prerequisite abjurer INT 13, magic user alchemist INT 13 arcane archer INT 13, fighter, rogue arcane magic INT 13, fighter, rogue, cleric artificer INT 13 assassin DEX 13, fighter, rogue bard CHA 13 beast master WIS 13 beserker CON 13 bounty hunter INT 13 bushi WIS 13, fighter commander CHA 13 conjurer INT 13, magic user defender CON 13, fighter divine magic WIS 13, fighter, rogue, magic user diviner INT 13, magic user dreamwalker WIS 13 druid WIS 13, cleric enchanter INT 13, magic user evoker INT 13, magic user priest, forge WIS 13, cleric gladiator STR 13, fighter priest, grave WIS 13, cleric illusionist INT 13, magic user jester CHA 13, rogue, magic user kensei DEX 13, fighter knight CON 13, fighter monk, way of the elements WIS 13, fighter, cleric monk, way of the fist DEX 13, fighter, cleric necromancer INT 13, magic user, cleric ninja DEX 13, fighter, rogue outlaw DEX 13, fighter, rogue paladin CHA 13, fighter, cleric pirate DEX 13, fighter, rogue psion WIS 13 ranger WIS 13, fighter, rogue rune magic INT 13, magic user samurai CHA 13, fighter scout DEX 13, fighter, rogue shaman WIS 13, cleric shapeshifter WIS 13 sorcerer INT 13, magic user spirit blade INT 13 summoner INT 13, cleric, magic user swashbuckler DEX 13, fighter, rogue templar INT 13, fighter, cleric totem warrior CON 13, fighter transmuter INT 13, magic user undead hunter WIS 13, fighter, cleric warlock CHA 13 witch WIS 13 priest, knowledge WIS 13, cleric priest, life WIS 13, cleric priest, light WIS 13, cleric priest, tempest WIS 13, cleric priest, trickery DEX 13, cleric priest, war STR 13, cleric [B]Example[/B]: If you select a cleric class, you don't automatically get the domains. You would have to choose them. So you could choose a cleric class (and get the core spellcasting features), but instead of getting a domain, maybe you choose the bard occupational package. Essentially you would have the basic spellcasting function of a cleric, [I]plus [/I]additional abilities around inspiration that the bard occupation brings. Or you could choose the beserker package and have the core spellcasting of the cleric, but the rage and resistance abilities that a berserker package would give. [/QUOTE]

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