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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7460649" data-attributes="member: 996">I suspect the impact will be negligible.&nbsp; 5e has already sold to the established fanbase, it's ongoing sales are more to new &amp; returning players drawn to the D&amp;D name.&nbsp; PF2 might pull away a few hard-core 3.x/PF fans who'd been amusing themselves with 5e while waiting for it, but it's not going to have any effect on the stream of incoming new/returning players.&nbsp; The come-back is D&amp;D's to lose it's hold on, and WotC is showning no sign of loosening it's grip.&nbsp;PF had the unprecedented advantage of being de-facto D&amp;D at a time when D&amp;D, itself, was very pointedly being not-D&amp;D.&nbsp; That's no longer the case, 5e is all-in, true-blue, D&amp;D the way D&amp;D oughta be.&nbsp; PF2 - which, honestly, is showing every sign of being /better/ than 5e even tried to be, but, as such, &quot;less D&amp;D&quot; than 5e is - has no chance of rivaling that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 7460649, member: 996"] I suspect the impact will be negligible. 5e has already sold to the established fanbase, it's ongoing sales are more to new & returning players drawn to the D&D name. PF2 might pull away a few hard-core 3.x/PF fans who'd been amusing themselves with 5e while waiting for it, but it's not going to have any effect on the stream of incoming new/returning players. The come-back is D&D's to lose it's hold on, and WotC is showning no sign of loosening it's grip. PF had the unprecedented advantage of being de-facto D&D at a time when D&D, itself, was very pointedly being not-D&D. That's no longer the case, 5e is all-in, true-blue, D&D the way D&D oughta be. PF2 - which, honestly, is showing every sign of being /better/ than 5e even tried to be, but, as such, "less D&D" than 5e is - has no chance of rivaling that. [/QUOTE]

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