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<blockquote data-quote="Gaiden" data-source="post: 469007" data-attributes="member: 103"><p>Gey - edit - yeah, meant to say Hey, but I thought I would leave it in for comic relief - edit - Green Slime</p><p></p><p>Thanks for not taking offense at my lack of assumptions. It sounds to me like you would be a very fair DM - I do not equate fairness with niceness. Rather, I would consider the following an unfair DM: </p><p></p><p>I plan an attack on said Dragon with a special type of Dexterity reducing poison and the DM decides that this dragon randomly has immunity to poisons - AFTER I HAVE INITIATED THE ATTACK and not before hand.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I obviously did eat the"stupid breakfast" <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>One thing I would say is that sometimes planning an attack can be as much satisfaction as the climactic battle. Seriously, think about a group whose wizard spends the requisite amount of time to enchant all of the fighter's main weapons with ghost touch, just so that they are effective in ghost form. Think about sitting around the strategy table planning on exactly what everyone will do in the different circumstances possible. To me that is a lot of fun. Grant it, both the planning/1 round kill AND the climactic battles have their merits - I will not even attempt to say that as a player I don't enjoy those close battles - especially when they are the climactic ones.</p><p></p><p>I will reiterate the TPK risk though. I make no assumption that the Dragon can't know anything about the PC's, just that if it does then a TPK will result. Jaxom, if you play the Dragon right, and it does in fact have all the knowledge about the party, there really should be no way that the party can win - even if the Dragon is a much younger Dragon, like an adult. I have both DMed and played against very powerful dragons and know from experience.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gaiden, post: 469007, member: 103"] Gey - edit - yeah, meant to say Hey, but I thought I would leave it in for comic relief - edit - Green Slime Thanks for not taking offense at my lack of assumptions. It sounds to me like you would be a very fair DM - I do not equate fairness with niceness. Rather, I would consider the following an unfair DM: I plan an attack on said Dragon with a special type of Dexterity reducing poison and the DM decides that this dragon randomly has immunity to poisons - AFTER I HAVE INITIATED THE ATTACK and not before hand. I obviously did eat the"stupid breakfast" :) One thing I would say is that sometimes planning an attack can be as much satisfaction as the climactic battle. Seriously, think about a group whose wizard spends the requisite amount of time to enchant all of the fighter's main weapons with ghost touch, just so that they are effective in ghost form. Think about sitting around the strategy table planning on exactly what everyone will do in the different circumstances possible. To me that is a lot of fun. Grant it, both the planning/1 round kill AND the climactic battles have their merits - I will not even attempt to say that as a player I don't enjoy those close battles - especially when they are the climactic ones. I will reiterate the TPK risk though. I make no assumption that the Dragon can't know anything about the PC's, just that if it does then a TPK will result. Jaxom, if you play the Dragon right, and it does in fact have all the knowledge about the party, there really should be no way that the party can win - even if the Dragon is a much younger Dragon, like an adult. I have both DMed and played against very powerful dragons and know from experience. [/QUOTE]
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