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Message: <blockquote data-quote="bmfrosty" data-source="post: 7664265" data-attributes="member: 6788547">I'm unsure as to what point you're trying to make.I think we can say that in 2007/8 4e launched and burned brightly until it fizzled out in 2011/12, and during the time between then and when 5e launched Pathfinder carried the torch and made more money than D&D for that time.I also don't think anyone would argue that the release of 4e didn't cause a schism between editions and that some significant percentage of people stayed with 3e in the form of Pathfinder instead of going to 4e.I also don't think that you'd find anyone arguing that the transition from OGL to GSL didn't cause a lot of 3rd party publishers to stick with what they knew and move on to supporting Pathfinder.There are a lot of things that we know, and a lot of things that we don't.  Including how D&D will do over the next 9 months.  Including how Pathfinder will do over the next 9 months.We don't know if Pathfinder 1.1 or 2.0 or whatever will be forthcoming in the next couple of years.We don't know what's coming at Gen Con this year.Lots of unknowns out there.</blockquote>