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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 7664661" data-attributes="member: 957">all of the above.It is impossible to say how much longer 2E could have lasted without all of the other baggage.It does seem quite clear that 2E itself was being bungled from the management side.  So the case may be that it should have been addressed much sooner than it was, but there was enough financial backup and brand value to keep it plugging along.Or it may be that despite the overprinting and poor planning it was still hanging in there, just not well enough to make up for a warehouse of Dragon Dice and old BR stuff.IMO 2E was already well into becoming obsolete as the TTRPG market started to truly evolve.  The creation of D&D itself was obviously revolutionary and awesome.  But going on two decades later, other companies were starting to build better mousetraps.But there is no way to know if that was having any impact or not.  Too many other (and bigger) factors in play.</blockquote>