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<blockquote data-quote="Mercurius" data-source="post: 7664763" data-attributes="member: 59082"><p>Almost missed this one (which often happens to promotions of peace and harmony <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" />). </p><p></p><p>Anyhow, sure. I think part of what happened here is that the word "irrational" has more negative connotations to some than it does to me. I don't see it as particularly negative at all. Plenty of wonderful things are "irrational." In fact, I would say the very best things in life are irrational (so to speak): love, imagination, eating ice cream.</p><p></p><p>I'm not sure how the "hate" part of Camp Two isn't part of Camp Three. If we are going to split Camp Two into two groups, I'd say there are those that liked (but didn't love) 4E, played it for awhile, then grew tired of it. This is my experience. Then there those that had an overall negative association but didn't necessarily "hate" it.</p><p></p><p>Anyhow, as far as irrationality goes, perhaps a better way of putting what I was trying to say is that when actual "hate" is involved, usually there's something more going on than a reasoned opinion, usually there some element of emotion or affect. I can dislike a person if I find them annoying or if they do things that are abhorrent to me, but to actually "hate" them they either have to do something truly awful or they have to rub something in me the wrong way.</p><p></p><p>That "in me" part is what I'm getting at. A lot of folks seemed personally offended by 4E, whether the game itself, the vibe and look of it, or WotC's handling of it. Again, I can understanding liking or disliking all of that, but when we get to actual <em>hatred</em>, clearly there's more going on.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mercurius, post: 7664763, member: 59082"] Almost missed this one (which often happens to promotions of peace and harmony ;)). Anyhow, sure. I think part of what happened here is that the word "irrational" has more negative connotations to some than it does to me. I don't see it as particularly negative at all. Plenty of wonderful things are "irrational." In fact, I would say the very best things in life are irrational (so to speak): love, imagination, eating ice cream. I'm not sure how the "hate" part of Camp Two isn't part of Camp Three. If we are going to split Camp Two into two groups, I'd say there are those that liked (but didn't love) 4E, played it for awhile, then grew tired of it. This is my experience. Then there those that had an overall negative association but didn't necessarily "hate" it. Anyhow, as far as irrationality goes, perhaps a better way of putting what I was trying to say is that when actual "hate" is involved, usually there's something more going on than a reasoned opinion, usually there some element of emotion or affect. I can dislike a person if I find them annoying or if they do things that are abhorrent to me, but to actually "hate" them they either have to do something truly awful or they have to rub something in me the wrong way. That "in me" part is what I'm getting at. A lot of folks seemed personally offended by 4E, whether the game itself, the vibe and look of it, or WotC's handling of it. Again, I can understanding liking or disliking all of that, but when we get to actual [i]hatred[/i], clearly there's more going on. [/QUOTE]
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