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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 7665587" data-attributes="member: 48965">So now we're using the broad category of limited use mechanics... LOL,  it's like claiming it's inconsistent to dislike oranges but not apples because they're all fruit.  Again there is no inconsistency in my like or dislike.  In fact the only inconsistency that remains is your ever changing criteria for "similarity"... what's next, let me guess... it's also inconsistent to dislike 4e and like 5e because they both use d20...The hoops being jumped through and stretching of the meaning of same in your comparisons is approaching a ridiculous level. It's not being resolved because instead of addressing the differences in the mechanics... you dismiss them and create your own motives, thoughts, etc. for other posters... it's like you're having a conversation with yourself.  How about actually addressing any of the actual differences in the mechanics?  Even if it's one of the one's [MENTION=42582]pemerton[/MENTION] even admits exist? I guess that would be too much to ask... because then instead of just pronouncing answers and ascribing thoughts to people you'd have to actually engage in a discussion at some point.  Wrong you've gone to such a high level of vagueness (limited use mechanics) to force a "sameness" on different mechanics that the comparison criteria you're using has become absurd.  Well when you actually take the time to read and address the actual reasons I've given perhaps then we can get somewhere... but I'm starting to realize you are probably more interested in staying within your own comfort zone about 4e and you're pre-constructed notions of why many people don't like it than trying to learn and understand... if you change you're mind though I'm still here.</blockquote>

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