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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9716768" data-attributes="member: 93670">Most of my games run into low to mid teens but I have very little doubt about that 7th level stat being reasonably accurate based on that experience.Level 7 is late in tier 2 of play, that's where the excess of over insulating tier1 of play without usefully supporting the kinds of gm stress relief/sanity support features of past editions starts combining horribly with the failure of many areas of play failing to rebalance their power curves.Take the warlock as an easy example, it has a 2(1d10+cha+knock back+hex) at will plus 2x3rd level slots every rest at level 6 and it jumps to 2x4th level slots at level 7, at level 9 that becomes 2x5th and at level 11 3x5 plus a bump to 3(1d10+cha+knock back+hex) and none of that even touched on all of the many additional at will or daily powers they have been accumulating.The PCs don't start with any glaring weaknesses that need others with their niche protected area of mastery to cover for them and they just keep getting more powerful both in focused niche and general flexibility rather than developing any.  Eventually that overloads the system and the GM has choices between accepting their entire table can basically expect to act like Mary Sue or build a whole new game in the background of the GM screen  that is separate from the one they appear to be running.  By seven or shortly after the PCs are so over the top that any "I think this will help" can easily be trivialized by something the party already has or could get on a dime with the right feat/multiclass bingo</blockquote>

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