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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EthanSental" data-source="post: 9618220" data-attributes="member: 6790058">Character gen in 2e before the class kit books came out, which felts like within 4-6 months for some to the PHB?  Those kits gave people a lot of reading to see which one fit their minds eye for their character.  For 3e and PF, having the bonkers to hit and Ac additions and feat trees, the etools and hero lab app was essential to me role and level a character.  1e, 2e and 5e…not that big of a deal to me and feel about the same when we rolled up a 2e game a couple years ago.</blockquote>