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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Iku Rex" data-source="post: 2939135" data-attributes="member: 752">You offered two options and demanded that I choose one. In fact those were not the only available options. Sounds like textbook false dilemma to me. How about: 3. The rule says "humanoid" so therefore it's referring to general body shape or creature type. It leads to absurdity because an armor self-evidently fits ("conforms correctly to the shape or size of") a creature or not based on the shape (or size) of the body it's fitted to. Do you understand this? If no, why not? A creature with humanoid form but not the humanoid type does not (by definition) have a general body shape significantly different from a creature with the humanoid type. It's - what did you call it? - a "good ole strategy of using a "self-evident" argument". Logicians call it reductio ad absurdum.  The fallacy of "appeal to reason"? If you think appealing to reason is a fallacy it would explain a lot... I'll certainly confess to trying to appeal to your reason.  :\  Two creatures with 100% (outwardly) identical bodies. If you take a full body cast of both you'll be unable to tell them apart. Yet armor fits or not depending on a game mechanical technicality? If you think that's sensible we have nothing more to talk about.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek!    :eek:"  data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" /> How is this in any way relevant? Please tell me you're not gloating about how the (unique) resizing rules for full plates don't have a special clause for identical clones?  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek!    :eek:"  data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" /> That rule does not support your claim. If you were right a "humanoid" full plate would have to be rebuilt for creatures without the humanoid type (like elan or planetouched), for at least the original cost of the armor.</blockquote>

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