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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DamionW" data-source="post: 2670418" data-attributes="member: 18649">Sorry, missed the double post.  Only saw post #30.  Like I said, it's your game and as far as balance on the weapons, seems okay to me so use it.  I just think that if there's a "messy paint job" method to create weapons, there should be for every kind of item, because people in general are lazy.  Say you have a wizard player that comes up with a "messy" justification for a wand with flaws of some kind.  How can you turn him down?  The fact that the -X to theoretical +X from special abilities cancels out neatly shouldn't drive them being the only ones that creators are lazy about.  That's just a case of rules creating a story and I'm not a fan of that, personally.EDIT:  I know I sound like a broken record on this thread, but it has to do with the whole suspension of disbelief in RPGs.  If I saw just one or maybe two of these items in a game, I'd find them flavorful and different.  If I saw it as a regular game mechanic, I'd stop finding magical items as interesting devices made by magical individuals and more just a number crunching engine.</blockquote>