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<blockquote data-quote="Technik4" data-source="post: 2169620" data-attributes="member: 7211">Aye, I don't have a problem using it in my game. And, for what its worth, thanks for creating this poll (even though I consider it a silly way to prove someone wrong/right, I think the comments helped boil the class down).My only peeve is that usually if something is so blatantly overpowered people make examples to show it. Like, &quot;the mystic theurge is so overpowered - look at what I can do [Hypothetical Character Follows]&quot;. No one attempted to do that, they just looked at the numbers and declared them overpowered. Granted, you did have something like this happen in a game of yours, but your comments seemed to suggest that because of the cherry-picking, the character did not really become more powerful than they should have (they just managed to twink SA damage). Personally, I tried to do this in a lot of ways and found that generally:-This PrC is not abusable for the first 5 levels. In fact, its a nice way for evil spellcasters to (logically) get some SA dice.&nbsp; The only irritation was that spellcasters can take 1 level, get spellcasting and never come back. This is mollified because, they didnt really get many bonuses (poison-use and more skills).-While the PrC can result in as many as 3 more SA dice than the one found in the DMG, that version was almost never worth going to level 10. A Rog11/Ass9 is &gt; Rog10/Ass10, which does not make sense to me. -The only method of getting the extra SA dice is most useful to someone who does not already have Uncanny Dodge (Non-Rogue). This means multiclass Ftr/Rog, Rgrs, etc end up with higher SA 'than they should' (or would have if they would have gotten rogue levels) if they get more than 5 levels.Also, at high levels (10+, when this begins to outpace the Rogue) another 2 dice of SA damage is not that damaging to a game (clearly, imo). Thanks for everyone who has contributed.Technik</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Technik4, post: 2169620, member: 7211"] Aye, I don't have a problem using it in my game. And, for what its worth, thanks for creating this poll (even though I consider it a silly way to prove someone wrong/right, I think the comments helped boil the class down). My only peeve is that usually if something is so blatantly overpowered people make examples to show it. Like, "the mystic theurge is so overpowered - look at what I can do [Hypothetical Character Follows]". No one attempted to do that, they just looked at the numbers and declared them overpowered. Granted, you did have something like this happen in a game of yours, but your comments seemed to suggest that because of the cherry-picking, the character did not really become more powerful than they should have (they just managed to twink SA damage). Personally, I tried to do this in a lot of ways and found that generally: -This PrC is not abusable for the first 5 levels. In fact, its a nice way for evil spellcasters to (logically) get some SA dice. The only irritation was that spellcasters can take 1 level, get spellcasting and never come back. This is mollified because, they didnt really get many bonuses (poison-use and more skills). -While the PrC can result in as many as 3 more SA dice than the one found in the DMG, that version was almost never worth going to level 10. A Rog11/Ass9 is > Rog10/Ass10, which does not make sense to me. -The only method of getting the extra SA dice is most useful to someone who does not already have Uncanny Dodge (Non-Rogue). This means multiclass Ftr/Rog, Rgrs, etc end up with higher SA 'than they should' (or would have if they would have gotten rogue levels) if they get more than 5 levels. Also, at high levels (10+, when this begins to outpace the Rogue) another 2 dice of SA damage is not that damaging to a game (clearly, imo). Thanks for everyone who has contributed. Technik [/QUOTE]

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