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Message: <blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 6274649" data-attributes="member: 22424">While the '83 Red Box was great (I can't comment on the '81 version), it's also 30 years old. As such, it's of limited use as an example, because a lot of people simply haven't been gaming that long.Besides, actually, the contents of the PF set are actually better than the '83 Red Box - 5 levels instead of 3, 12 character options instead of 7, plus a battle map, pawns, and pregenerated characters.The one big weakness of the PF set (and, in fairness, it is a pretty big one) is the omission of the AoO rules, which mean that combat has a rather different feel in the BB versus the 'real' game. I'm not sure how they could have done that better, but, yes, it's an issue.The PF Beginner Box is an actual game, and has <a href="http://paizo.com/pathfinder/adventureFinder/beginnerBox" target="_blank">supporting materials</a>. Indeed, it has additional adventures and a DM kit available for free.Again, there are supporting materials available, both from Paizo (including free adventures) and also from third-party publishers. And where the Red Box had the B-series of adventures, the Pathfinder set can be used with any low level Pathfinder adventure, of which there are many (the user may need stats for the additional spells, feats, monsters, and magic items... but those are also <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/" target="_blank">available online for free</a>).Beyond that, yes, it would be good if Paizo would support the Beginner Box with its own dedicated line of adventures and, even better, an equivalent of the Expert Box. But, unfortunately, the market just isn't there - it really does seem that people either advance to the 'real' game in short order or they just walk away.</blockquote>

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