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<blockquote data-quote="Xeviat" data-source="post: 7557529" data-attributes="member: 57494"><p>The fighter fits these concepts in a non-magical world. In a magical world, there are things that those two archetypes do that aren't really covered by the fighter. Yes, you could make a subclass, and we have them sort of (I argue the woodsman is better in the rogue, and we have the scout; fighter has the cavalier). We have the Paladin and Ranger as classes because there are a number of varied character builds and types that fit into them, because they're concepts that have been around for a long time.</p><p></p><p>Now, I didn't play back in the day of the "Elf" class, so I don't know if it got anything interesting to weave magic and martial. The Gish is a very old D&D concept. I just think a class needs more of a story than "warrior that uses arcane magic", because the paladin and ranger both have more weight to their history than "warrior that uses divine magic" and "warrior that uses nature magic".</p><p></p><p>That's all I'm saying here.</p><p></p><p>I'm not saying that the existing options in the game allow you to play this properly, not by a long shot. I'm saying that I haven't been convinced it's not something that couldn't be built with a Fighter/Wizard multiclass with likely two new subclasses.</p><p></p><p>What separates a "Swordmage" from a "Fighter/Wizard"? Because I can feel what separates a "Paladin" from a "Fighter/Cleric". I'd like a "Swordmage" class. I just want to know it's story and it's place in the world.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Xeviat, post: 7557529, member: 57494"] The fighter fits these concepts in a non-magical world. In a magical world, there are things that those two archetypes do that aren't really covered by the fighter. Yes, you could make a subclass, and we have them sort of (I argue the woodsman is better in the rogue, and we have the scout; fighter has the cavalier). We have the Paladin and Ranger as classes because there are a number of varied character builds and types that fit into them, because they're concepts that have been around for a long time. Now, I didn't play back in the day of the "Elf" class, so I don't know if it got anything interesting to weave magic and martial. The Gish is a very old D&D concept. I just think a class needs more of a story than "warrior that uses arcane magic", because the paladin and ranger both have more weight to their history than "warrior that uses divine magic" and "warrior that uses nature magic". That's all I'm saying here. I'm not saying that the existing options in the game allow you to play this properly, not by a long shot. I'm saying that I haven't been convinced it's not something that couldn't be built with a Fighter/Wizard multiclass with likely two new subclasses. What separates a "Swordmage" from a "Fighter/Wizard"? Because I can feel what separates a "Paladin" from a "Fighter/Cleric". I'd like a "Swordmage" class. I just want to know it's story and it's place in the world. [/QUOTE]
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