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<blockquote data-quote="Xeviat" data-source="post: 7557564" data-attributes="member: 57494"><p>I've never said I was arguing anything but my opinion. But looking through 3E and 4E, we got the duskblade and the hexblade and the swordmage and none of those really gained enough traction for the designers to choose to keep them as a full class in 5E. The Warlock was the only one that really held on. Maybe that's because they wanted to try their short rest recovery spellcaster in 5E like the sorcerer grew out of the notion of spontaneous casting. Maybe it's because the Warlock fit a flavor that wasn't really covered by the existing classes.</p><p></p><p>The other classes all have story. They're all part of the world. 4E had class bloat because it's system required classes to differentiate characters. 5E's subclass system kind of makes that less necessary.</p><p></p><p>I'm fully open to being convinced, I would just like to see more than mechanics for a class. I feel the same way about the Artificer, that it could maybe be handled through subclasses, but even it feels like it's based on something bigger (marrying the alchemist and the technologist into a single class feels like the beginnings of something). Where, while I liked it, I never quite got why the Psychic Warrior and Soul Knife were separate classes and not just prestige classes on Fighter/Psions or Rogue/Psions, and why I'm hoping to see the Mystic completed some time (maybe for the Eberon or Dark Sun book?)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Xeviat, post: 7557564, member: 57494"] I've never said I was arguing anything but my opinion. But looking through 3E and 4E, we got the duskblade and the hexblade and the swordmage and none of those really gained enough traction for the designers to choose to keep them as a full class in 5E. The Warlock was the only one that really held on. Maybe that's because they wanted to try their short rest recovery spellcaster in 5E like the sorcerer grew out of the notion of spontaneous casting. Maybe it's because the Warlock fit a flavor that wasn't really covered by the existing classes. The other classes all have story. They're all part of the world. 4E had class bloat because it's system required classes to differentiate characters. 5E's subclass system kind of makes that less necessary. I'm fully open to being convinced, I would just like to see more than mechanics for a class. I feel the same way about the Artificer, that it could maybe be handled through subclasses, but even it feels like it's based on something bigger (marrying the alchemist and the technologist into a single class feels like the beginnings of something). Where, while I liked it, I never quite got why the Psychic Warrior and Soul Knife were separate classes and not just prestige classes on Fighter/Psions or Rogue/Psions, and why I'm hoping to see the Mystic completed some time (maybe for the Eberon or Dark Sun book?) [/QUOTE]
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