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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5802437" data-attributes="member: 22779">See, this is where these conversations start going pear shaped.&nbsp; First, Essentials is not 4.5 the way 3.5 was to 3.0.&nbsp; For one, Essentials was designed from the get go NOT to replace 4e.&nbsp; There is no problems at all having an Essential character or a base 4e character in the same group.&nbsp; Nor, going forward, did 4e stop being supported.&nbsp; It's still being actively supported all the way through.Essentials was as much 4.5 as Unearthed Arcana was 3.5.Secondly, there are considerably more DM tools than just the Monster Builder.&nbsp; Sure, the Monster Builder is the only purely DM tool, but, that's fair enough.&nbsp; The game table is there to be used, the compendium is there.&nbsp; The character builder is there.&nbsp; All of the material from Dungeon and Dragon is included in the tools within a very short time of release.Is it less than they promised in 2006?&nbsp; Oh hell yes.&nbsp; Should there be more?&nbsp; Oh hell yes.&nbsp; But, let's not get too carried away pillorying WOTC.&nbsp; They did not cancel Dungeon or Dragon as was mentioned in the OP.&nbsp; It's changed format, sure, but, there are all sorts of reasons for that.&nbsp; But, claiming that it's gone is factually untrue.There are lots and lots of things we can criticise WOTC for without making up stuff.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 5802437, member: 22779"] See, this is where these conversations start going pear shaped. First, Essentials is not 4.5 the way 3.5 was to 3.0. For one, Essentials was designed from the get go NOT to replace 4e. There is no problems at all having an Essential character or a base 4e character in the same group. Nor, going forward, did 4e stop being supported. It's still being actively supported all the way through. Essentials was as much 4.5 as Unearthed Arcana was 3.5. Secondly, there are considerably more DM tools than just the Monster Builder. Sure, the Monster Builder is the only purely DM tool, but, that's fair enough. The game table is there to be used, the compendium is there. The character builder is there. All of the material from Dungeon and Dragon is included in the tools within a very short time of release. Is it less than they promised in 2006? Oh hell yes. Should there be more? Oh hell yes. But, let's not get too carried away pillorying WOTC. They did not cancel Dungeon or Dragon as was mentioned in the OP. It's changed format, sure, but, there are all sorts of reasons for that. But, claiming that it's gone is factually untrue. There are lots and lots of things we can criticise WOTC for without making up stuff. [/QUOTE]

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