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<blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 4278682" data-attributes="member: 22424"><p>Around this time yesterday, I was just leaving my FLGS, having purchased the 4e core rules. (This meant I had to pay almost the full RRP, which was quite unpleasant, but I bought my Red Box basic set there twenty years ago, so it was a matter of principle.)</p><p></p><p>Anyway, before heading on to my regularly scheduled game of WFRP, I spent some time browsing various stores in town, where I was shocked to find they'd released "Species IV" (I mean, why? 2 and 3 both sucked, and the fourth entry in any series is almost invariably awful.)</p><p></p><p>My last stop was in Waterstones, where I was surprised to see an advert on the door "Dungeons & Dragons 4th Edition now in stock". This was probably a good thing, although it puts yet more pressure on my FLGS.</p><p></p><p>Within said bookstore, I found a kid browsing their RPG selection, clearly considering whether to ask his parents if he could buy the "D&D Basic Game".</p><p></p><p>Good, right?</p><p></p><p>Well, no, because this was of course the <strong>3.5e</strong> Basic set, and therefore he would be buying into and learning a set of rules that is already obselete.</p><p></p><p>Of course, this being Waterstones, there was no-one on hand to set the kid right. (Except me, but I don't talk to random children, for reasons that should be obvious. Besides, I'm not in a position where I can make a recommendation for or against 4e at this time.)</p><p></p><p>In the event, the kid put the box back on the shelf, and left.</p><p></p><p>Finally getting to the point, in my opinion it is a big mistake for WotC not to release a "4th Edition Basic Set" at the same time as the 4e core rulebooks. It seems that there actually is some hype surrounding the new game, albeit at a fairly low level, and so now would seem to be the time to grab some new players. But the "4th Edition Core Rulebook Collection" is big, heavy, and very intimidating. You won't grab many new players with it. (The kid in Waterstones seem to even consider it, and while he was there he didn't flick through, or even pick up, any of the three core rulebooks.)</p><p></p><p>Am I alone in this opinion?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="delericho, post: 4278682, member: 22424"] Around this time yesterday, I was just leaving my FLGS, having purchased the 4e core rules. (This meant I had to pay almost the full RRP, which was quite unpleasant, but I bought my Red Box basic set there twenty years ago, so it was a matter of principle.) Anyway, before heading on to my regularly scheduled game of WFRP, I spent some time browsing various stores in town, where I was shocked to find they'd released "Species IV" (I mean, why? 2 and 3 both sucked, and the fourth entry in any series is almost invariably awful.) My last stop was in Waterstones, where I was surprised to see an advert on the door "Dungeons & Dragons 4th Edition now in stock". This was probably a good thing, although it puts yet more pressure on my FLGS. Within said bookstore, I found a kid browsing their RPG selection, clearly considering whether to ask his parents if he could buy the "D&D Basic Game". Good, right? Well, no, because this was of course the [b]3.5e[/b] Basic set, and therefore he would be buying into and learning a set of rules that is already obselete. Of course, this being Waterstones, there was no-one on hand to set the kid right. (Except me, but I don't talk to random children, for reasons that should be obvious. Besides, I'm not in a position where I can make a recommendation for or against 4e at this time.) In the event, the kid put the box back on the shelf, and left. Finally getting to the point, in my opinion it is a big mistake for WotC not to release a "4th Edition Basic Set" at the same time as the 4e core rulebooks. It seems that there actually is some hype surrounding the new game, albeit at a fairly low level, and so now would seem to be the time to grab some new players. But the "4th Edition Core Rulebook Collection" is big, heavy, and very intimidating. You won't grab many new players with it. (The kid in Waterstones seem to even consider it, and while he was there he didn't flick through, or even pick up, any of the three core rulebooks.) Am I alone in this opinion? [/QUOTE]
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