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A bit of help with a Fochluclan Lyrist in 5e
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<blockquote data-quote="RogueJK" data-source="post: 7889572" data-attributes="member: 170"><p>Personally, I think you're trying to do way too much, and aren't going to be able to do anything well.</p><p></p><p>In addition to the conflicts pointed out by Salthorae above, understand that Wild Shape is very level-dependent. It requires focusing on your Druid levels to remain competitive. (And even then, Wild Shape tend to lag a little bit in power in mid-level play.)</p><p></p><p>If you were only going to be playing a strictly low-level campaign that would end at Level 5, then a build like this dipping 2 levels of Moon Druid would be fine. But Avernus goes all the way to Level 13ish. That CR 1 Brown Bear form from your 2 level Druid dip might be useful at Level 3, but won't be very useful at Level 7 or 9 or 13.</p><p></p><p>So a more optimal path would be to decide which you want more, and focus on that... If you're more interested in being a Wild Shape Grappler, drop the Bladesinger levels and just be a Moon Druid with a 1 level Barbarian dip, or just a straight Moon Druid. Otherwise, if you're more interested in wanting a flavorful mix of Nature and Arcane magic, you should consider something like a Bladesinger with a 2-3 level Ranger dip or a 1 level Nature Cleric dip, or a Land Druid or Nature Cleric with a 2 level Bladesinger dip. Or just roleplay it, and be something like a straight Bladesinger with some of your Arcane spells reflavored to have a Nature-style bent, plus taking Nature and Survival skill proficiencies.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RogueJK, post: 7889572, member: 170"] Personally, I think you're trying to do way too much, and aren't going to be able to do anything well. In addition to the conflicts pointed out by Salthorae above, understand that Wild Shape is very level-dependent. It requires focusing on your Druid levels to remain competitive. (And even then, Wild Shape tend to lag a little bit in power in mid-level play.) If you were only going to be playing a strictly low-level campaign that would end at Level 5, then a build like this dipping 2 levels of Moon Druid would be fine. But Avernus goes all the way to Level 13ish. That CR 1 Brown Bear form from your 2 level Druid dip might be useful at Level 3, but won't be very useful at Level 7 or 9 or 13. So a more optimal path would be to decide which you want more, and focus on that... If you're more interested in being a Wild Shape Grappler, drop the Bladesinger levels and just be a Moon Druid with a 1 level Barbarian dip, or just a straight Moon Druid. Otherwise, if you're more interested in wanting a flavorful mix of Nature and Arcane magic, you should consider something like a Bladesinger with a 2-3 level Ranger dip or a 1 level Nature Cleric dip, or a Land Druid or Nature Cleric with a 2 level Bladesinger dip. Or just roleplay it, and be something like a straight Bladesinger with some of your Arcane spells reflavored to have a Nature-style bent, plus taking Nature and Survival skill proficiencies. [/QUOTE]
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