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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 6551780" data-attributes="member: 957">Flawed compared to what?&nbsp; I don't see that edition change *must* fracture the fan base.&nbsp; Recall that much was made out of the 4E drive to bring in vast numbers of new fans and the direct assessment that some loss of existing fans was OK because of all the fans that would appear.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; That certainly fractured the fan base.&nbsp; But that does not mean that all new editions must have the same result.We also don't know that &quot;a lot of product reduces return on investment over time&quot;.&nbsp; The history of RPGs shows that a lot of product can be shown aligned with reduction in return on investment over time.&nbsp; BUT...&nbsp; The history of RPGs shows that little product can be tied reduced return on investment over time.&nbsp; There is no clear correlation whatsoever.&nbsp; &nbsp; The &quot;second golden age&quot; under the D20/OGL banner may very well be the high water mark.&nbsp; It is ok to be unsatisfied that this is &quot;high enough&quot;.&nbsp; But &quot;best possible&quot; not being high enough and the circumstances surrounding &quot;best possible&quot; being a cause of decline are two different matters.yep.&nbsp; If you are selling board games.&nbsp; Does this apply to RPGs?&nbsp; (I think a lot more &quot;no&quot; than &quot;yes&quot;.)Of course not.&nbsp; We should avoid the right balance and by all means be as far from optimal as possible.Seriously?&nbsp; Do you also love your mother and like apple pie?&nbsp; I'm teasing.&nbsp;&nbsp; But you do realize you have not actually said anything here, right?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 6551780, member: 957"] Flawed compared to what? I don't see that edition change *must* fracture the fan base. Recall that much was made out of the 4E drive to bring in vast numbers of new fans and the direct assessment that some loss of existing fans was OK because of all the fans that would appear. That certainly fractured the fan base. But that does not mean that all new editions must have the same result. We also don't know that "a lot of product reduces return on investment over time". The history of RPGs shows that a lot of product can be shown aligned with reduction in return on investment over time. BUT... The history of RPGs shows that little product can be tied reduced return on investment over time. There is no clear correlation whatsoever. The "second golden age" under the D20/OGL banner may very well be the high water mark. It is ok to be unsatisfied that this is "high enough". But "best possible" not being high enough and the circumstances surrounding "best possible" being a cause of decline are two different matters. yep. If you are selling board games. Does this apply to RPGs? (I think a lot more "no" than "yes".) Of course not. We should avoid the right balance and by all means be as far from optimal as possible. Seriously? Do you also love your mother and like apple pie? I'm teasing. But you do realize you have not actually said anything here, right? [/QUOTE]

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