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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 6554510" data-attributes="member: 2525">OK Goldomark, I don't know if you're being an intentional dick and misquoting me, or if this really is a mistake you keep making even after I corrected you. But here is the direct quote from the link to my post, &quot;Four good playtest adventures which are incredibly easy to adapt to current rules (Ghosts of Dragonspear Castle, Legacy of the Crystal Shard, Murder in Baldur's Gate, Scourge of the Sword Coast). &quot;Do you see the word conversion? No, you do not.&nbsp; The reason you thought you saw the word conversion is because, at the END of that paragraph, concerning an entirely different topic, you read this, &quot;And that's not counting the existing conversion notes WOTC published for numerous older adventures with the playtest that would be easily converted.&quot;You think the later was what I was talking about, but it's not.&nbsp; It's the former.&nbsp; The PLAYTEST ADVENTURES don't need conversion and I never said they did.&nbsp; It's the 1e and 2e adventures, like the A1-A4 Slavers series from 1e AD&amp;D, for which they provided conversion notes, which need conversion.&nbsp; Two DIFFERENT things.&nbsp; Now do you get it?Like irony and conversion, you're not using the word arbitrary correctly either.&nbsp; For it to be arbitrary it would have to be based on whim and/or random choice.&nbsp; For it to not be arbitrary it would have to be based on reason or a system.&nbsp; My choice of the last Core book is based on reason and a system - it makes logical sense to count from the date the Core rules are completely published.&nbsp; It makes no sense, to me at least, to choose in the middle of the publishing run of the Core books, like say after the Monster Manual but before the DMG.&nbsp; You could choose the PHB date, but then you're lacking monsters and all the DMG rules including magic items. And the Starter Set doesn't make sense at all, as it was so woefully incomplete and ran only to level 4 that it's wholly not representative of the game as we know it.&nbsp; The only date that makes sense to me is when the last of the three Core books is released.&nbsp; Now maybe you disagree, but your disagreement doesn't make my choice of that date arbitrary - I based my choice on reason, therefore it's not arbitrary.I never was, you just stubbornly refused to read the very link to my prior post that you provided, even after I asked you to.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 6554510, member: 2525"] OK Goldomark, I don't know if you're being an intentional dick and misquoting me, or if this really is a mistake you keep making even after I corrected you. But here is the direct quote from the link to my post, "[b]Four good playtest adventures which are incredibly easy to adapt to current rules[/b] (Ghosts of Dragonspear Castle, Legacy of the Crystal Shard, Murder in Baldur's Gate, Scourge of the Sword Coast). " Do you see the word conversion? No, you do not. The reason you thought you saw the word conversion is because, at the END of that paragraph, concerning an entirely different topic, you read this, "And that's not counting the existing conversion notes WOTC published for numerous older adventures with the playtest that would be easily converted." You think the later was what I was talking about, but it's not. It's the former. The PLAYTEST ADVENTURES don't need conversion and I never said they did. It's the 1e and 2e adventures, like the A1-A4 Slavers series from 1e AD&D, for which they provided conversion notes, which need conversion. Two DIFFERENT things. Now do you get it? Like irony and conversion, you're not using the word arbitrary correctly either. For it to be arbitrary it would have to be based on whim and/or random choice. For it to not be arbitrary it would have to be based on reason or a system. My choice of the last Core book is based on reason and a system - it makes logical sense to count from the date the Core rules are completely published. It makes no sense, to me at least, to choose in the middle of the publishing run of the Core books, like say after the Monster Manual but before the DMG. You could choose the PHB date, but then you're lacking monsters and all the DMG rules including magic items. And the Starter Set doesn't make sense at all, as it was so woefully incomplete and ran only to level 4 that it's wholly not representative of the game as we know it. The only date that makes sense to me is when the last of the three Core books is released. Now maybe you disagree, but your disagreement doesn't make my choice of that date arbitrary - I based my choice on reason, therefore it's not arbitrary. I never was, you just stubbornly refused to read the very link to my prior post that you provided, even after I asked you to. [/QUOTE]

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