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Message: <blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 168477" data-attributes="member: 2067">Very interesting.......but to get the true feel I'm looking for I'd like to see these philosophies and thought-clubs distanced from religion itself. Sort of a "Sect A believes X, which may be compatible with religions 1, 2, and 6879."Maybe that's not very coherent. ^_^I plan on checking these out, but they do seem fairly entwined with the religious structure of the campaign, whereas mine, while perhaps interacting, wouldn't be as dependant on it. It's not so much a "my god believes this!" as it is "*I* beleive this, and that's why I worship a god who does likewise."Maybe it's a bit of a fuzzy line, but I tend to like my philosophies distanced from the faiths that may or may not interact with them.More than religious scheming and god-politics. More of a way to frame how you look at the world around you, perhaps dependant on the religion, perhaps independant of it.It's like, the worshipers of Pelor believe he keeps the evil spirits of the night from ruling everything (or something like that). He fights back the darkness. His worshipers believe darkness is the breeding ground of evil and seek to eliminate darkness wherever they find it.ORYou believe darkness is the breeding ground of evil. Bumps in the night are obviously created by horrific and dangerous creatures. Only the light provides refuge. Images of shadowy beings hunting you in the twighlight haunt your dreams and cause you to become sweaty-palmed when forced to rely on torches and candles. The unknown lies beyond the radius of light, and the unknown is dangerous.This may lead you to a belief in Pelor, or a belief in some god of knowledge (such as Vecna) trying to find out what is in the darkness so you're not afraid of it, or belief in some Cthuluoid monstrosity that as long as you appease it will continue to allow the sun to rise, or belief that it is your singluar duty to eradicate darkness.The former instantly frames the belief as part of a church or cult, as the organization of a god. The latter allows you to define your character's reasons for things, and allow your imagination to take off from there.Why is he afraid of the dark? How could that frame his race, class, alignment? What kind of feats or PrC's would he endeavor for? For a dwarf to be affraid of the dark is a lot more unique than for, say, an orc or gnome. Perhaps he would become a Paladin to eradicate the darkness, or an Illusionist to try and understand it.So, yeah...that's my rant. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> I'll definately check these out, but I think that in the event that I get this published by the good people to offer me above, we'll mostly avoid overlap.Besides, IMHO, there can never be enough beliefs in the world of the PC's. ^_^</blockquote>

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