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<blockquote data-quote="Sunseeker" data-source="post: 6642616"><p>So there were 3 basic problem players and an intermittent 4th who was just difficult to play with.</p><p></p><p>First and foremost was Captain Tantrum and his sister Ms Molestation.</p><p></p><p>Captain Tantrum, like his name suggests would throw a fit over the smallest of things. When things didn't go his way, when he character took a lot of damage (not even close to dying!) Every game, multiple times per game. Most of the time it was because his own stupidity and own unwillingness to act in a reasonable, non-insane manner that he got himself into these situations. Sometimes this included yelling and throwing things, sometimes it included moping and sulking and being a general sourpuss. It didn't take much to keep him in line, but it was constant incessant nudge-nudge to get him to chillax, it was like someone combined the complete inability to be controlled of a cat with the absolute "gimme gimme gimme" attitude of a toddler into a single human being. Things got worse when his sister started showing up because now he felt like he had to act like a parent to her, and while she did things out of line, like a poor parent he never criticized her for actually doing wrong but was just always chewing on her ass.</p><p></p><p>His sister, Ms Molestation encountered an event which rewarded her character with a mini version of herself...which she proceeded to spend the next hour of the game physically reenacting how she was groping and otherwise molesting the small clone. What made this worse is that she spent half the game groping <em>herself</em> and being something around 15 this was hugely inappropriate and made the entire group hugely uncomfortable. It was difficult to even look in her direction without catching a glimpse of her hands being stuck <em>somewhere</em>. To top that off she was an incredibly obnoxious know-it-all...who didn't know squat. And any time someone would chime in that they knew something about the subject she would snap at them over how much more she knew about it and how they obviously didn't know anything. She was also one of <em>those</em> Dr Who fans, you know the kind of girls who are so obsessively into the Doctor they actually want to be his girlfriend? Yeah. Being a Dr Who fan myself, I think she actually damaged my liking for the show with the way she acted.</p><p></p><p>Finally we come to Sir Chokes-a-lot. Nice guy, a little odd, wasn't sure if he was trans or just liked to wear womens clothing but hey that's a quirk and he didn't throw it in our faces so hey whatever right? But <em>every</em> <strong>single</strong> turn he choked. The table would often sit in silence for <em>minutes</em> while we waited for him to even say a single word! Often his turns ended with the DM saying "Ok times up!" or him finally saying he wasn't going to do anything at all. Sometimes he didn't choke, which I think made it even more infuriating the times that he did, which was probably 9/10 turns. It wasn't even a matter of he didn't <em>know</em> what to do, the guy knew the rulebook like the back of his hand and was a serious RPG enthusiast, so we made an effort to make him feel comfortable, to be patient, to help him take turns faster and then next week BOOM, back to square one. </p><p></p><p>These were the main offenders. We had a younger player who was something of an Obnoxious Twerp, but it seemed like he responded well to environments that encouraged good play and less twepiness, which the first two people mentioned did not. We considered inviting him to our private game, but he is rather young and one of the better players knew his folks, who didn't really like him playing D&D at all, and probably wouldn't go for letting him play in someone's home. He really did get better, both less twerpy and more skilled with the game over time, but there just weren't enough of us to keep putting on that positive pressure.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sunseeker, post: 6642616"] So there were 3 basic problem players and an intermittent 4th who was just difficult to play with. First and foremost was Captain Tantrum and his sister Ms Molestation. Captain Tantrum, like his name suggests would throw a fit over the smallest of things. When things didn't go his way, when he character took a lot of damage (not even close to dying!) Every game, multiple times per game. Most of the time it was because his own stupidity and own unwillingness to act in a reasonable, non-insane manner that he got himself into these situations. Sometimes this included yelling and throwing things, sometimes it included moping and sulking and being a general sourpuss. It didn't take much to keep him in line, but it was constant incessant nudge-nudge to get him to chillax, it was like someone combined the complete inability to be controlled of a cat with the absolute "gimme gimme gimme" attitude of a toddler into a single human being. Things got worse when his sister started showing up because now he felt like he had to act like a parent to her, and while she did things out of line, like a poor parent he never criticized her for actually doing wrong but was just always chewing on her ass. His sister, Ms Molestation encountered an event which rewarded her character with a mini version of herself...which she proceeded to spend the next hour of the game physically reenacting how she was groping and otherwise molesting the small clone. What made this worse is that she spent half the game groping [I]herself[/I] and being something around 15 this was hugely inappropriate and made the entire group hugely uncomfortable. It was difficult to even look in her direction without catching a glimpse of her hands being stuck [I]somewhere[/I]. To top that off she was an incredibly obnoxious know-it-all...who didn't know squat. And any time someone would chime in that they knew something about the subject she would snap at them over how much more she knew about it and how they obviously didn't know anything. She was also one of [I]those[/I] Dr Who fans, you know the kind of girls who are so obsessively into the Doctor they actually want to be his girlfriend? Yeah. Being a Dr Who fan myself, I think she actually damaged my liking for the show with the way she acted. Finally we come to Sir Chokes-a-lot. Nice guy, a little odd, wasn't sure if he was trans or just liked to wear womens clothing but hey that's a quirk and he didn't throw it in our faces so hey whatever right? But [I]every[/I] [B]single[/B] turn he choked. The table would often sit in silence for [I]minutes[/I] while we waited for him to even say a single word! Often his turns ended with the DM saying "Ok times up!" or him finally saying he wasn't going to do anything at all. Sometimes he didn't choke, which I think made it even more infuriating the times that he did, which was probably 9/10 turns. It wasn't even a matter of he didn't [I]know[/I] what to do, the guy knew the rulebook like the back of his hand and was a serious RPG enthusiast, so we made an effort to make him feel comfortable, to be patient, to help him take turns faster and then next week BOOM, back to square one. These were the main offenders. We had a younger player who was something of an Obnoxious Twerp, but it seemed like he responded well to environments that encouraged good play and less twepiness, which the first two people mentioned did not. We considered inviting him to our private game, but he is rather young and one of the better players knew his folks, who didn't really like him playing D&D at all, and probably wouldn't go for letting him play in someone's home. He really did get better, both less twerpy and more skilled with the game over time, but there just weren't enough of us to keep putting on that positive pressure. [/QUOTE]
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