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<blockquote data-quote="DrNilesCrane" data-source="post: 3173961" data-attributes="member: 7652">I agree with GoodKingJayIII and add that you mentioned that the GM is a novice: you and the rest of the group are both encouraging and enabling her to continue running you through her trashy vampire novel by showing up every week.&nbsp; Since she's getting positive reinforcement by your presence, she's not going to change.&nbsp; She's not going to improve if she's not open minded to suggestions; if she doesn't really care if you and the rest of the group are having fun, she's not much of a friend either.&nbsp; I think you really need to have a talk with her, either alone or with the group (although she might perceive a group conversation as ganging up on her) and straightened it out: I mean, you're talking about 10+ hours a week at this and it's horrible.&nbsp; Another option is to offer to GM for awhile.&nbsp; Bring it up with &quot;Hey, I've been looking at some adventures for [whatever game system] and would love to DM for a while - could I take over the DM chair for a few weeks?&quot;&nbsp; If it goes well, it might open her eyes to how she might improve.&nbsp; I've set up round robin D&amp;D groups with a mix of experienced DMs who were supportive to newer, novice DMs (we'd change DMs every couple of adventures) and it worked well - maybe there's hope for her yet!You mention two players who are enjoying the campaign are new to RPGs - if they've never played anything else / having nothing to compare it to, they might not realize how much better the experience can be.&nbsp; I hope it works out, wingsandsword - keep us updated!!!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DrNilesCrane, post: 3173961, member: 7652"] I agree with GoodKingJayIII and add that you mentioned that the GM is a novice: you and the rest of the group are both [U][B]encouraging and enabling[/B][/U] her to continue running you through her trashy vampire novel by showing up every week. Since she's getting positive reinforcement by your presence, she's not going to change. She's not going to improve if she's not open minded to suggestions; if she doesn't really care if you and the rest of the group are having fun, she's not much of a friend either. I think you really need to have a talk with her, either alone or with the group (although she might perceive a group conversation as ganging up on her) and straightened it out: I mean, you're talking about 10+ hours a week at this and it's horrible. Another option is to offer to GM for awhile. Bring it up with "Hey, I've been looking at some adventures for [whatever game system] and would love to DM for a while - could I take over the DM chair for a few weeks?" If it goes well, it might open her eyes to how she might improve. I've set up round robin D&D groups with a mix of experienced DMs who were supportive to newer, novice DMs (we'd change DMs every couple of adventures) and it worked well - maybe there's hope for her yet! You mention two players who are enjoying the campaign are new to RPGs - if they've never played anything else / having nothing to compare it to, they might not realize how much better the experience can be. I hope it works out, wingsandsword - keep us updated!!! [/QUOTE]

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