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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nenn Esoss" data-source="post: 6006418" data-attributes="member: 6699531">For the age of these dragons, they sure act like babies <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devil.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":devil:" title="Devil    :devil:" data-shortname=":devil:" />At this point in the game, the bell has been struct, the boxers stood up and the trainers are reaching for the stools. Time for preparation ran out so trying to steal our money back or arranging defenses in the city is no longer an option.Much like Suny and Shiite Arabs in the middle east, the barbarians are all divided into clans. Technically they all follow the same rules and god but they still hate each other's guts. Each clan is divided in families that follow the head familly that make up the clan affiliation. Clan sizes vary.We had a fairly high level illusionist Kender that infiltrated the castle and did intel recon. Was a great job until his luck ran out and a series of gaffes ended up in his capture and stripping of his possessions. He had something like 6000gp in gems on him and that's what Osrik used to pay the stronger but less numerous clans. We had to postpone the assassination plan of Osrik to rescue out kender. Twice that day <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/ponder.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":hmm:" title="Hmmm    :hmm:" data-shortname=":hmm:" /> so, the money is long gone and distributed with no chance to get it back. It really is chump change anyhow. We stopped counting out money long ago.When the captains advanced on the battlefield, the Osrik-aligned clans, two of them, we're told about where their new money came from and when talks broke down, the lesser of these two clan's general returned only after hesitating. We think he might turn during the battle.So in essence we're not worried about the barbarians. Our side has greater numbers and some were actually fed and trained freely by us. All our barbarians have had their back pay settled by us because Osrik didn't have money to pay them anymore.While we discus various strategies on FB (we have a hidden group from the DM), we did come up with a couple of strategies but some come at a high cost...We have a hidden chest of (near) infinite containment where our gold and a few other tricklets are storred. From a previous Whish, we have a rope of teleportation: place it in a circle on the ground and anything not alive gets teleported in the chest with the command word ("Che-Ching!"). When the red dragon gave us one of his caves in payment for the portal we found him, he gave us the command word for the steel golem guarding the cave. We actually commanded the golem to stand on one foot and we Che-Ching-ed it in the chest. The only way to take it out of there (way too big for a reversed enlargement spell) is to brake the chest. Problem with that is stashing our millions of GPs during the battle. But imagine the bomb of tossing the chest overboard with the golem inside, right on Shalal.Unfortunately some players are not willing to sacrifice the chest just yet. I'm still trying to convince them. I'm also sure the DM would love to see that chest gone.We also have a small group of jinns (the lesser of the gins) who offered their services for a fore payment and the access to some magical items and armor owned by Osrik. Technically, we could ask them to help take care of the griffon-mounted paladins.So what I'm really looking for are alternatives on killing them dragons. Spell ideas or combo attacks with fighters. Looking for out-of-the-box crazy ideas we might not have considered.</blockquote>

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