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<blockquote data-quote="Jester David" data-source="post: 7735135" data-attributes="member: 37579"><p>Athlete vs footballer.</p><p></p><p>I was using “streamer” as a semi-generic term for “person posting media online.” A more encompassing descriptor for the new media. “Vlogger” is probably the more appropriate adjective, but that seems overly specific when discussing the changing trends as a whole. Because that’s the result of vloggers <strong> and</strong> live streamers, <strong>and</strong> VTT streamers. The whole Web 2.0 shebang, and how it has changed tabletop gaming. The change that is here, and has been here for a while but went unnoticed. </p><p></p><p>We here at ENWorld do so like to think of ourselves as “the norm”. The baseline. The trendsetters. The average gamers. And assume that the trends and viewpoints that are popular here are representative of those of D&Ders as a whole. Which probably has never been true, but is somehow even less true. And ENWorld was one of the places WotC went to advertise & tease new products (like 5e when they previewed a class here). </p><p></p><p>Sure, ENworld as a staggering 280k members. But that’s the result of being online for fifteen years. Less than 2k are ever online at any given time; there’s probably fewer than 10k active members. And even fewer of those hit the forums: most threads are lucky to get 2k views, and that’s a lot of repeated viewers from regular discussion. This thread has <750 views. (And I’m probably 2% of those.)</p><p>Meanwhile, the “Matt Colville brand” has 38k followers on Twitter, 21k Twitch, and 171k subscribers on YouTube, with newer videos getting in the range of 70k views.</p><p></p><p>This Kickstarter is probably one of the top 10 biggest D&D related news events of the year (the new top grossing TRPG Kickstarter <em>and</em> it’s D&D related)… and it wasn’t mentioned on ENWorld until *after* it had blown past the vast, vast majority of other D&D Kickstarters in terms of both dollars and backers, including such projects as the <a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/350683997/creature-codex-5th-edition-monsters-including-com" target="_blank">Creature Codex</a> or <a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/froggodgames/tome-of-horrors-reborn-for-fifth-edition" target="_blank">Tome of Horrors Reborn</a>. ENWorld and its membership were irrelevant to its success further highlight by the reaction of many posters here, which has been “who?” or “I don’t watch D&D online”. </p><p>It mirrors the reaction to one of the other big events of the year: the start of the new Critical Role campaign. Which is an event that will only make it easier for new people to get into that campaign and engage with a sizable community. And potentially generate more spin-off D&D materials, like the best selling Tal'Dorei Campaign Setting. (Geek & Sundry is heavily promoting the new campaign with freakin' billboards, and it was a non-event on this site.)</p><p></p><p>That’s a huge change. And it's one that already happened. As shown by WotC turning to online personalities during the Stream of Annihilation. ENWorld and the old guard aren’t the trendsetters. We’re not the majority or representatives of “D&D players”. I n fact, we’re almost out of touch. D&D news is happening and we’re left going “Huh? Who?” or “ What else has he written?”</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jester David, post: 7735135, member: 37579"] Athlete vs footballer. I was using “streamer” as a semi-generic term for “person posting media online.” A more encompassing descriptor for the new media. “Vlogger” is probably the more appropriate adjective, but that seems overly specific when discussing the changing trends as a whole. Because that’s the result of vloggers [b] and[/b] live streamers, [b]and[/b] VTT streamers. The whole Web 2.0 shebang, and how it has changed tabletop gaming. The change that is here, and has been here for a while but went unnoticed. We here at ENWorld do so like to think of ourselves as “the norm”. The baseline. The trendsetters. The average gamers. And assume that the trends and viewpoints that are popular here are representative of those of D&Ders as a whole. Which probably has never been true, but is somehow even less true. And ENWorld was one of the places WotC went to advertise & tease new products (like 5e when they previewed a class here). Sure, ENworld as a staggering 280k members. But that’s the result of being online for fifteen years. Less than 2k are ever online at any given time; there’s probably fewer than 10k active members. And even fewer of those hit the forums: most threads are lucky to get 2k views, and that’s a lot of repeated viewers from regular discussion. This thread has <750 views. (And I’m probably 2% of those.) Meanwhile, the “Matt Colville brand” has 38k followers on Twitter, 21k Twitch, and 171k subscribers on YouTube, with newer videos getting in the range of 70k views. This Kickstarter is probably one of the top 10 biggest D&D related news events of the year (the new top grossing TRPG Kickstarter [i]and[/i] it’s D&D related)… and it wasn’t mentioned on ENWorld until *after* it had blown past the vast, vast majority of other D&D Kickstarters in terms of both dollars and backers, including such projects as the [url=https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/350683997/creature-codex-5th-edition-monsters-including-com]Creature Codex[/url] or [url=https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/froggodgames/tome-of-horrors-reborn-for-fifth-edition]Tome of Horrors Reborn[/url]. ENWorld and its membership were irrelevant to its success further highlight by the reaction of many posters here, which has been “who?” or “I don’t watch D&D online”. It mirrors the reaction to one of the other big events of the year: the start of the new Critical Role campaign. Which is an event that will only make it easier for new people to get into that campaign and engage with a sizable community. And potentially generate more spin-off D&D materials, like the best selling Tal'Dorei Campaign Setting. (Geek & Sundry is heavily promoting the new campaign with freakin' billboards, and it was a non-event on this site.) That’s a huge change. And it's one that already happened. As shown by WotC turning to online personalities during the Stream of Annihilation. ENWorld and the old guard aren’t the trendsetters. We’re not the majority or representatives of “D&D players”. I n fact, we’re almost out of touch. D&D news is happening and we’re left going “Huh? Who?” or “ What else has he written?” [/QUOTE]
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