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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Boogie_man" data-source="post: 2552776" data-attributes="member: 30380">I'm actually playing a goliath character right now.  They only ability they truly get that could be considered over powered is the fact that they get Power Build.  But being the ONLY truly effective ability and the ability not coming with reach, I think the loss of a level evens that out.If I was to go with an orc or monster race I felt it would add something to the blandness of the group.  Lets be honest the only reason people take human as a race is because they are mechnically the best with their extra skill points and extra starting feat.  A little discomfort or difficulty can add a lot of roleplaying options.I think the shifter is fairly balanced for two reasons:  One, you don't recieve anymore wild shapes per day after taking the class so you have to be pretty high level to take it effectively (Druid seventh, for powergamers that may seem low but most of the games I'm in don't go past ninth or tenth level) and second: you stop getting druid spells.  As it being disruptive or obnoxious I don't think thats really fair.  If you can shapeshift effectively you can fill nearly any role but not outshine anyone.This I agree with, funny enough the DM for this game saw this thread and told me last night about it.  He felt a few people were getting rather...hostile over the subject and we both had a good laugh.  I think the DM always has the last word and I have no problem with them going yes or no.  Though I do like a DM to tell me WHY they don't like it, if anything that'll help me avoid asking for things in the future that will again be disapproved.</blockquote>

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