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Message: <blockquote data-quote="oakbriar" data-source="post: 5140199" data-attributes="member: 86020">I believe WOTC's intention in 4e was to avoid over complicating things with sub-races and such (by the end of 3.5 you could roll a half-dragon/half-halfling with an ogre bloodline). But they're kind of getting into that territory again anyway with some of the Winning Races articles (dusk/valenar elves for instance). And for the record, the Wilden are supposed to be a spruced up version of the Killoren from Races of the Wild... though the only real difference I see is they all have Wolverine hair now. Once PHB2 and Eberron came out that was pretty much put all the "classic" races out there. I wasn't very thrilled with the races PHB3 had to offer, but off the top of my head I can't really think of anything cooler. They also seem to tie the new races in with the power sources of the new classes. PHB2 fit primal/arcane/divine, and 3 was psionic and primal. So what will be next, shadow or elemental or something?What I would like to see is more of the Winning Races that go into specific setting's variations. An Imaskar human would be pretty cool, or Xen'drik drow.</blockquote>