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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FadedC" data-source="post: 4676270" data-attributes="member: 55463">I think the problem isn't so much battlerager's vigor on it's own. I mean it is a very powerful ability and almost certainly better then +1 to hit (given that as mengu says your sill free to wear plate and use a shield). But by it's self it's still not horribly unreasonable as there is only so high you can get your con without hurting your offence. The thing that makes BRV crazy though are the feats and brash attack. With feats a 2nd level dwarven battle rager (16 str, 18 con) can easily get 7 temporary hit points per attack, making him far harder to kill then any other defender. With brash attack that same battle rager can more then make up for lowering his strength to take a high con and in some cases may be able to do striker level damage. If I were to allow BRV in my campaign I'd pretty much need a minimum of 2 rules. 1) No feats that boost it, or at least not until paragon2) You must wear chain mail or light armor to gain the benefits (that way you give up ac as well as hit bonus) Still not sure what if anything to do with brash strike there.</blockquote>