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A critical analysis of 2024's revised classes (and loser fanboys)
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<blockquote data-quote="eclair~" data-source="post: 9818603" data-attributes="member: 7054492"><p>So I'm going to point out that seven people thumbs-up'd this post before I reply to it. <em>Seven people.</em></p><p></p><p>Part of the reason I decided to not bother continuing with this was, to be frank, there's a very real tendency for 2024 fans to be dismissive towards people who criticize the revised rules. There was one post earlier in this thread, when raising a particular point toward one class that made little sense (the Barbarian having restrictions on their Weapon Mastery options when no other class with the feature does) and one response to this was "I don't mind".</p><p></p><p>It wasn't an argument to justify the design choice or disagree with the criticism, it was simply..."this isn't a problem because <em>I</em> don't care". And that's pretty much a big problem when you go to critiquing 2024 design choices, because there's very many that negatively impact other players' characters, builds, and thus game experience...and that many people simply go "I don't mind, it doesn't bother <em>me</em>".</p><p></p><p>And why am I bringing this up in response to your post? The tendency for 2024 fans to be dismissive, belligerent, degrading of dissenting opinions on the revision?</p><p></p><p>Between the three class critiques I did, I used the word "lazy" to describe all of <strong>two</strong> features. (To note: giving the Barbarian a 17th-level feature that gives "use the options you already had but two of them" for Brutal Strikes, and giving the Cleric Wish as their 20th-level feature.)</p><p></p><p>So in large part, there is no real reason to take the time to analyze and critique the 2024 classes when many responses will already be coming in with a refusal to seriously consider any of the points made...and then get their pats on the back, affirmation, encouragement from like-minded people from such a (dare I say it?) <em>lazy</em> take on the thread.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="eclair~, post: 9818603, member: 7054492"] So I'm going to point out that seven people thumbs-up'd this post before I reply to it. [I]Seven people.[/I] Part of the reason I decided to not bother continuing with this was, to be frank, there's a very real tendency for 2024 fans to be dismissive towards people who criticize the revised rules. There was one post earlier in this thread, when raising a particular point toward one class that made little sense (the Barbarian having restrictions on their Weapon Mastery options when no other class with the feature does) and one response to this was "I don't mind". It wasn't an argument to justify the design choice or disagree with the criticism, it was simply..."this isn't a problem because [I]I[/I] don't care". And that's pretty much a big problem when you go to critiquing 2024 design choices, because there's very many that negatively impact other players' characters, builds, and thus game experience...and that many people simply go "I don't mind, it doesn't bother [I]me[/I]". And why am I bringing this up in response to your post? The tendency for 2024 fans to be dismissive, belligerent, degrading of dissenting opinions on the revision? Between the three class critiques I did, I used the word "lazy" to describe all of [B]two[/B] features. (To note: giving the Barbarian a 17th-level feature that gives "use the options you already had but two of them" for Brutal Strikes, and giving the Cleric Wish as their 20th-level feature.) So in large part, there is no real reason to take the time to analyze and critique the 2024 classes when many responses will already be coming in with a refusal to seriously consider any of the points made...and then get their pats on the back, affirmation, encouragement from like-minded people from such a (dare I say it?) [I]lazy[/I] take on the thread. [/QUOTE]
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