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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9820220" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>I mean, people <em>were</em> saying that for literal years after 5.0 was published.</p><p></p><p>I literally got infracted on another forum because I got testy when someone else said, <em>to my (internet) face</em>, that it wasn't possible for people to not like 5e because 5e had something to offer absolutely all D&D players. That's not an exaggeration. It was very literally the claim that because 5e has something for everyone, nobody can really dislike it.</p><p></p><p>As someone who has <em>several</em> beefs with how 5e was playtested, designed, marketed, and discussed? Yeah, that one kinda rankled just a little. Being openly treated like you don't exist and then slapped for getting angry that someone said you don't exist...not exactly fun.</p><p></p><p>As for the anger? It's definitely there. I've seen multiple people getting, as a friend of mine would say, "@$$-mad" about the "cash grab" or the "ruining" of 5e. The anger was <em>especially</em> there for Tasha's and some of the books in the 2021-2023 period. Have you forgotten the "Disneyfication" thread, or the folks who screamed bloody murder when it looked like the Sorcerer might get a feature that would put the Wizard's supremacy into question (and then <em>full-on gleefully</em> danced upon its grave when they won)? There's <em>plenty</em> of anger there. It's just that the two most virulently vocal minorities--Wizard supremacists and diehard 3.x fans--haven't been activated by any of the changes yet. Soon as that line gets crossed, you'll have the 4e edition war all over again, complete with rampant falsehoods, active antagonism/baiting, and a full-court-press effort to destroy anything and everything that isn't perfectly in line with their vision.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 9820220, member: 6790260"] I mean, people [I]were[/I] saying that for literal years after 5.0 was published. I literally got infracted on another forum because I got testy when someone else said, [I]to my (internet) face[/I], that it wasn't possible for people to not like 5e because 5e had something to offer absolutely all D&D players. That's not an exaggeration. It was very literally the claim that because 5e has something for everyone, nobody can really dislike it. As someone who has [I]several[/I] beefs with how 5e was playtested, designed, marketed, and discussed? Yeah, that one kinda rankled just a little. Being openly treated like you don't exist and then slapped for getting angry that someone said you don't exist...not exactly fun. As for the anger? It's definitely there. I've seen multiple people getting, as a friend of mine would say, "@$$-mad" about the "cash grab" or the "ruining" of 5e. The anger was [I]especially[/I] there for Tasha's and some of the books in the 2021-2023 period. Have you forgotten the "Disneyfication" thread, or the folks who screamed bloody murder when it looked like the Sorcerer might get a feature that would put the Wizard's supremacy into question (and then [I]full-on gleefully[/I] danced upon its grave when they won)? There's [I]plenty[/I] of anger there. It's just that the two most virulently vocal minorities--Wizard supremacists and diehard 3.x fans--haven't been activated by any of the changes yet. Soon as that line gets crossed, you'll have the 4e edition war all over again, complete with rampant falsehoods, active antagonism/baiting, and a full-court-press effort to destroy anything and everything that isn't perfectly in line with their vision. [/QUOTE]
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