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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9833219" data-attributes="member: 7030563"><p>Different perspectives is not the same as different preferences, nor does it imply they will have different preferences.</p><p></p><p>If we know there are differences provide an example - dedicated players prefer A, while casual players prefer B.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You some evidence to draw that inference and we have none.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It is not correct to say the results are biased when no evidence of such a bias exists. </p><p></p><p>We presume that the surveys were taken predominantly by "dedicated" players. There is not even any proof of that, but I am willing to accept it as logical and probably true. That is fundamentally different than assuming this group of "dedicated" people has different preferences than the population that includes casual players. There is no evidence of this at all and it is incorrect to infer the results would be different without such evidence.</p><p></p><p>We get over and over again that it is "obvious" yet no one can provide a single example of something specific that would be different if more casual players answered the survey.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It is not obvious and you can not make such an inference about the results. If we asked people who frequent fruit drink cafes if they prefer juice or soda you would have a point and we could infer a bias in the answers. Likewise, if we asked people if D&D was a better game than monopoly we could infer some difference in the results as we are polling D&D players. That sort of bias is not what we are talking about here.</p><p></p><p>There is nothing to suggest skew on the specific game preferences that were asked about based on whether someone is a dedicated player or a casual player.</p><p></p><p>The people who responded to the survey were people who play D&D and it even asks this in the survey.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9833219, member: 7030563"] Different perspectives is not the same as different preferences, nor does it imply they will have different preferences. If we know there are differences provide an example - dedicated players prefer A, while casual players prefer B. You some evidence to draw that inference and we have none. It is not correct to say the results are biased when no evidence of such a bias exists. We presume that the surveys were taken predominantly by "dedicated" players. There is not even any proof of that, but I am willing to accept it as logical and probably true. That is fundamentally different than assuming this group of "dedicated" people has different preferences than the population that includes casual players. There is no evidence of this at all and it is incorrect to infer the results would be different without such evidence. We get over and over again that it is "obvious" yet no one can provide a single example of something specific that would be different if more casual players answered the survey. It is not obvious and you can not make such an inference about the results. If we asked people who frequent fruit drink cafes if they prefer juice or soda you would have a point and we could infer a bias in the answers. Likewise, if we asked people if D&D was a better game than monopoly we could infer some difference in the results as we are polling D&D players. That sort of bias is not what we are talking about here. There is nothing to suggest skew on the specific game preferences that were asked about based on whether someone is a dedicated player or a casual player. The people who responded to the survey were people who play D&D and it even asks this in the survey. [/QUOTE]
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