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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 8669211" data-attributes="member: 87792">And a wizard can get a decent Charisma, Persuasion, Inspiring Leader, etc. with almost exactly the same expenditure of resources. It's all skills (of which the fighter has the joint fewest in the game), backgrounds (of which the fighter gets one - just like everyone else) or feats (of which the fighter gets an extra at level 6 and level 14 - but the wizard has nothing as defining as Polearm Master, Great Weapon Master, or Sentinel). The fighter gets basically nothing socially that the wizard does not also get.And a high level Noble Wizard Lord of the Manor can do exactly the same thing. This is just saying &quot;Background should matter&quot; (true) and &quot;Fighters should get more super special backgrounds than anyone else&quot; (for which there is little in the way of mechanics).Why? Which would you identify with more? The grim faced man continually wearing armour or the musician who knows and sings your favourite songs and therefore shows they can empathise with you? The high level fighter is just as far removed from ordinary people as any other high level character but with fewer icebreakers.There aren't.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 8669211, member: 87792"] And a wizard can get a decent Charisma, Persuasion, Inspiring Leader, etc. with almost exactly the same expenditure of resources. It's all skills (of which the fighter has the joint fewest in the game), backgrounds (of which the fighter gets one - just like everyone else) or feats (of which the fighter gets an extra at level 6 and level 14 - but the wizard has nothing as defining as Polearm Master, Great Weapon Master, or Sentinel). The fighter gets basically [I]nothing[/I] socially that the wizard does not also get. And a high level Noble Wizard Lord of the Manor can do exactly the same thing. This is just saying "Background should matter" (true) and "Fighters should get more super special backgrounds than anyone else" (for which there is little in the way of mechanics). Why? Which would you identify with more? The grim faced man continually wearing armour or the musician who knows and sings your favourite songs and therefore shows they can empathise with you? The high level fighter is just as far removed from ordinary people as any other high level character but with fewer icebreakers. There aren't. [/QUOTE]

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