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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 8669438" data-attributes="member: 87792"><p>Meanwhile I assumed that the common masses were more <em>scared of</em> fighters than they were of any other class with the sole exception of the near-mundane barbarians. As it's a lot easier to imagine yourself being killed by a normal person with an axe than it is by a miracle. And it's a lot easier to imagine yourself jumping down the throat of a dragon if you're protected by magic. And in person it's relatively easy to forget that the person with the staff could turn you into a frog, but the muscles-on-muscles, heavy armour, and giant weapons not so much. Fighters would therefore by default be more seen as violent psychopaths than someone to identify with.</p><p></p><p>And ultimately the characters that the common people identify with are the ones who put in the effort - and that's normally bards. Or mages as they are the ones who spread stories via books. Meanwhile the fighter has precisely <em>one</em> advantage as a leader - that they can lead from the front and demonstrate they aren't asking anyone to take risks where they aren't taking greater ones. This is a specific situation but the only one where being a fighter gives an <em>inherent</em> advantage.</p><p></p><p>In short you're house-ruling based on something that isn't in the books and doesn't match my understanding of psychology.</p><p></p><p>I houserule intimidation to work off the higher of Cha or Str. And that is the only mechanic that makes sense to me as inherent. I'm not saying that fighters <em>shouldn't</em> get more than this in the social arena. I'm saying they should because there is absolutely no inherent reason they should get anything else.</p><p></p><p>I <strong>do </strong>use common sense. Which is why fighters don't get any sort of houseruled benefits this way other than to intimidation. The thing about common sense is that it relies on people understanding the world the same way - and we don't.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 8669438, member: 87792"] Meanwhile I assumed that the common masses were more [I]scared of[/I] fighters than they were of any other class with the sole exception of the near-mundane barbarians. As it's a lot easier to imagine yourself being killed by a normal person with an axe than it is by a miracle. And it's a lot easier to imagine yourself jumping down the throat of a dragon if you're protected by magic. And in person it's relatively easy to forget that the person with the staff could turn you into a frog, but the muscles-on-muscles, heavy armour, and giant weapons not so much. Fighters would therefore by default be more seen as violent psychopaths than someone to identify with. And ultimately the characters that the common people identify with are the ones who put in the effort - and that's normally bards. Or mages as they are the ones who spread stories via books. Meanwhile the fighter has precisely [I]one[/I] advantage as a leader - that they can lead from the front and demonstrate they aren't asking anyone to take risks where they aren't taking greater ones. This is a specific situation but the only one where being a fighter gives an [I]inherent[/I] advantage. In short you're house-ruling based on something that isn't in the books and doesn't match my understanding of psychology. I houserule intimidation to work off the higher of Cha or Str. And that is the only mechanic that makes sense to me as inherent. I'm not saying that fighters [I]shouldn't[/I] get more than this in the social arena. I'm saying they should because there is absolutely no inherent reason they should get anything else. I [B]do[I] [/I][/B]use common sense. Which is why fighters don't get any sort of houseruled benefits this way other than to intimidation. The thing about common sense is that it relies on people understanding the world the same way - and we don't. [/QUOTE]
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