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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 8670753" data-attributes="member: 67338">for me it comes down to 'cool options' when I or someone in my group plays a warlock we get the same skills/ability check/role play options a fighter does... but we also have 2-4 at will options, 1-4 short rest pulls from a list of 2-11 spells, and at higher level BIG game changing daily abilities... plus every few levels we get mini class feats called invocations.When I or someone in my group plays a bard  we get the same skills/ability check/role play options a fighter does... but we also have 2-4 at will options, and a full pyrmyd of options in the way of full caster, and song of rest, and insperation.now the fighter gets action surge, second wind, and indomitable... and for the first 10 levels 1 feat. in the next 10 levels they will get 1 more feat and 2 extra attacks over the other two can get (since both bard and warlock but also cleric and others can get 2 attacks) you just CAN'T get the same options on a martial character.If I multi Fighter/rogue I can give up the lead on feats and the indomitable and the lead on attacks BUT get the expertise and a few other options... but even still can't keep up with the bard.</blockquote>