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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bill Zebub" data-source="post: 8671066" data-attributes="member: 7031982">I have a feeling I’m going to regret continuing to engage on this, but I will try.  I said I found the Vecna thread “interesting” and you responded “oh so that one case proves your point and yet my 10 examples…etc”1. No, I did not say proves. I said it’s interesting. There is a big difference between evidence and proof. 2. Your examples are not evidence because they cannot be verified. If I responded to your 10 examples with a story about my 50 examples, would you find that persuasive? Think about that. Then there are your analogies about iPhone issues and windows stability. You are comparing your perception/opinion of game design to objective problems with technology. The 5e fighter is not crashing. You are dissatisfied with it, but your dissatisfaction is subjective. So if you want to compare it to your phone, use something like UI design, which is subjective. For example, one of my frustrations with my phone is that the button to switch to a call on hold is in the same place as the button to hang up. So if I say good-bye and switch to the call on hold, and the first call ends, the button changes and I end up accidentally hanging up on the second call. We can all agree that is a function of design, not buggy software. So then we can debate whether or not it’s good design.</blockquote>