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Message: <blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 8671237" data-attributes="member: 6704184">You gotta know that no one is demanding either of those things. Right?Like I don't even disagree with this. I don't really like the fighter for design reasons that I don't pretend are anything but preference, but sure, they work fine. For some people. Maybe even for most people. But enough people are dissatisfied with objectively getting less in two of the three pillars of the game than nearly any other class, while not actually getting more in combat than anyone else, that wotc has tried to address it with subclasses and new battlemaster maneuvers. There just isn't a good reason to keep the fighter the way it is, when it has plenty of room for a couple simple features that aren't shared with every single other class that related primarily to the two non-combat pillars of the game. Doing so wouldn't take anything away from you or anyone else.</blockquote>