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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 8671724" data-attributes="member: 67338">most fighters will get action surge, second wind, 1 feat, and 1hp per level over melee casters... some will get 1 use of indomitable and a few will get a 3rd attacka theoretical 20th level fighter would have 2 attacks per round 3 uses of indomitable 2 feats action surge 2/sr and second wind plus 1 hp per level over a melee caster... many of who will have 1st-9th level spellsthe secrete is the video gameyness was never the problem...it's a cool minor thing at low level but more or less forgotten by end gameyup... so if you compare it to a 1st level wizard with 2 spellslots (or a 2nd level warlock with 2 pact magics) you get about twice you can do your cool thingthe paliden gets spells, auras, smites, lay on hands... in general is just betterand that is 100% the gods honest truth</blockquote>