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<blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 8672030" data-attributes="member: 63508">One thing I believe is 5e made many mechanical design decisions for the preference of those who aren't mechanics heavy. The fighter's design is the biggest example of it.The fighter lacks core class exploration and social mechanics because those who don't like the mechanics that ascribe flavor to the base classes and would rather roleplay it out. However by doing so, the fighter ended up lacking mechanics that the people who rejected them would have ignored. So those who don't roll Charisma or Intelligence likely responded to omit Charisma and Intelligence features in the core fighterQuite frankly having the fighter being the &quot;noob&quot; class, the &quot;ALL combat&quot; class and the &quot;wide net of warriors&quot; class was likely too much of a strain. It was likely just like the Psion/psychic where the class makes up too many archetypes. It is no wonder the fighter went through the most changes in playtest.If the fighter weren't iconic and required for D&amp;D, it likely would have been binned like the mystic for being too hard to design.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Minigiant, post: 8672030, member: 63508"] One thing I believe is 5e made many mechanical design decisions for the preference of those who aren't mechanics heavy. The fighter's design is the biggest example of it. The fighter lacks core class exploration and social mechanics because those who don't like the mechanics that ascribe flavor to the base classes and would rather roleplay it out. However by doing so, the fighter ended up lacking mechanics that the people who rejected them would have ignored. So those who don't roll Charisma or Intelligence likely responded to omit Charisma and Intelligence features in the core fighter Quite frankly having the fighter being the "noob" class, the "ALL combat" class and the "wide net of warriors" class was likely too much of a strain. It was likely just like the Psion/psychic where the class makes up too many archetypes. It is no wonder the fighter went through the most changes in playtest. If the fighter weren't iconic and required for D&D, it likely would have been binned like the mystic for being too hard to design. [/QUOTE]

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