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<blockquote data-quote="lingual" data-source="post: 8672275" data-attributes="member: 6983889">You just said in your previous post that Bards can have Expertise and fighters can't.&nbsp; Doesn't that mean outshine?&nbsp; So decent CHA and Persuasion are not good enough cuz from Bard school can &quot;do better&quot; (ie. &quot;outshine&quot;).Yes.&nbsp; I think Fighters are more identifiable to common NPCs than Wizards, Clerics, etc.&nbsp; And a low CHA fighter is not going to socially hampered if they are renowned and just saved the crops from burning.&nbsp; Maybe you play your game differently and require Persuasion checks to order an egg McMuffin.&nbsp; I really don't know.No.&nbsp; I'm not gonna go around digging posts to continue this stupid argument.&nbsp; I've already wasted enough time in trying to convince ppl that I find fighter are ok.&nbsp; So I guess you win ok?&nbsp; Your prize is convincing me that&nbsp; I've been playing the game wrong all this time.No I didn't say you said &quot;all fighters are bums&quot;.&nbsp; You the straw man.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="lingual, post: 8672275, member: 6983889"] You just said in your previous post that Bards can have Expertise and fighters can't. Doesn't that mean outshine? So decent CHA and Persuasion are not good enough cuz from Bard school can "do better" (ie. "outshine"). Yes. I think Fighters are more identifiable to common NPCs than Wizards, Clerics, etc. And a low CHA fighter is not going to socially hampered if they are renowned and just saved the crops from burning. Maybe you play your game differently and require Persuasion checks to order an egg McMuffin. I really don't know. No. I'm not gonna go around digging posts to continue this stupid argument. I've already wasted enough time in trying to convince ppl that I find fighter are ok. So I guess you win ok? Your prize is convincing me that I've been playing the game wrong all this time. No I didn't say you said "all fighters are bums". You the straw man. [/QUOTE]

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