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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 8672384" data-attributes="member: 87792">The word you used was "must". There is nothing saying fighters "must not outshine bards". Merely that if a bard is even vaguely trying the fighter pretty much can't other than through extreme optimisation at the cost of their abilities as a fighter. This isn't about must but can.So thank you for confirming this was a straw man.Wearing heavy armour and carrying large weapons does indeed make them more identifiable than sensible people with less uncomfortable and unwieldy equipment. On this we can agree. It also makes them more scary and intimidating than people who may be more powerful but aren't walking into the inn with so much hardware that is both visible and uncomfortable.And if they take their armour and weapons off? They don't have the word "fighter" stamped on their forehead and are less recognisable than people who don't normally cover themselves so completely in metal making themselves unrecognisable.The fighter is likely to be no more responsible for saving the crops from burning than the rest of the party. Indeed they are less likely to be responsible than someone with e.g. the Shape Water cantrip to help put the fire out. And if a charismatic and an uncharismatic character helped that doesn't narrow the gap.So what happened here? A 1:1 roleplay session with only the party member least able to save the crops from burning just so they have some social benefits.I play the game as a group game where in general if one party member helped do something they all did.No. My prize is, or should be, getting to stop you from making posts with multiple straw men in them in order to defend the assertion that the fighter isn't weak. And using as a baseline that the fighter took part in adventures other party members didn't.And one more straw man by you capping your post. I didn't say you said that, I asked what you to clarify one of your strawmen. I gave you a range of possible interpretations that I could understand.But I'm not interested in wasting more time on your special fighter adventures, ignoring the rules, and platoons of strawmen. Goodbye</blockquote>

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