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<blockquote data-quote="Bill Zebub" data-source="post: 8676144" data-attributes="member: 7031982">Whoah.Ok, in fairness what I wrote did sound like I was going after you in particular.&nbsp; That wasn't my intent: it's more the whole tenor of this thread has been &quot;Fighter is so terrible&quot; and then &quot;Frenzy is unplayable&quot; etc. etc. etc. But also in fairness, what you wrote, &quot;How in any way are these two features balanced against each other?&quot;, is pretty hyperbolic.&nbsp; First, they aren't supposed to be balanced against each other: there's no point in the game where you make a choice between just those two features.&nbsp; Second, they are not really all that unequal.&nbsp; Lay on Hands can do more total healing (depending on number of short rests) and has more utility, but Second Wind is a bonus action not a main action, which in combat is a big deal.So, yeah, the last part of my post should have been in a separate post, and wasn't directed at you in particular.&nbsp; AND the part I quoted was not exactly dispassionate discussion of mechanics.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Bill Zebub, post: 8676144, member: 7031982"] Whoah. Ok, in fairness what I wrote did sound like I was going after you in particular. That wasn't my intent: it's more the whole tenor of this thread has been "Fighter is so terrible" and then "Frenzy is unplayable" etc. etc. etc. But also in fairness, what you wrote, "How in any way are these two features balanced against each other?", is pretty hyperbolic. First, they aren't supposed to be balanced against each other: there's no point in the game where you make a choice between just those two features. Second, they are not really all that unequal. Lay on Hands can do more total healing (depending on number of short rests) and has more utility, but Second Wind is a bonus action not a main action, which in combat is a big deal. So, yeah, the last part of my post should have been in a separate post, and wasn't directed at you in particular. AND the part I quoted was not exactly dispassionate discussion of mechanics. [/QUOTE]

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