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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 8678052" data-attributes="member: 67338">I have never known a melee character to have a con 10 but okay... fighter and wizard each get 10 con, and the fighter gets 6hp per level and the wizard gets 4hp per level... aka 2 per levellets go (with what I think is more reasonable) 14 con and the fighter gets 8 per level and the wizard gets 6 per level... 2pt per level difference. no starting with max at first does give it a bit of a boost to fighter1st&nbsp; &nbsp; 10&nbsp; 06&nbsp; 12&nbsp; 082nd&nbsp;&nbsp; 16 10&nbsp; 20 14&nbsp;3rd&nbsp;&nbsp; 22 14&nbsp; 28&nbsp; 20so over the first 3 levels the biggest difference is at 3rd level with a 10 con (something I still think unreasonable) and at that point you get your 50%.50% more only happens if both dump con to 10 and even then you need to be 3rd level.and full casters get fireball, haste, counterspell...we are talking about casters. Or atleast I am. I used hexblade as my go to example since it is the most common tank I see but bard and cleric are tied for 2nd.&nbsp; I said 'even bladesinger isn't bad but not at level 1 and 2' and that forked off into this... the bladesinger is not as good as the other melee casters but it is still good.again I am doing caster non caster... but okay make your 3rd level casters a warmage and a blade singer a aberrant mind and a divine soul... there you go.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 8678052, member: 67338"] I have never known a melee character to have a con 10 but okay... fighter and wizard each get 10 con, and the fighter gets 6hp per level and the wizard gets 4hp per level... aka 2 per level lets go (with what I think is more reasonable) 14 con and the fighter gets 8 per level and the wizard gets 6 per level... 2pt per level difference. no starting with max at first does give it a bit of a boost to fighter 1st 10 06 12 08 2nd 16 10 20 14 3rd 22 14 28 20 so over the first 3 levels the biggest difference is at 3rd level with a 10 con (something I still think unreasonable) and at that point you get your 50%. 50% more only happens if both dump con to 10 and even then you need to be 3rd level. and full casters get fireball, haste, counterspell... we are talking about casters. Or atleast I am. I used hexblade as my go to example since it is the most common tank I see but bard and cleric are tied for 2nd. I said 'even bladesinger isn't bad but not at level 1 and 2' and that forked off into this... the bladesinger is not as good as the other melee casters but it is still good. again I am doing caster non caster... but okay make your 3rd level casters a warmage and a blade singer a aberrant mind and a divine soul... there you go. [/QUOTE]

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