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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8681974" data-attributes="member: 93670">I don't have the 2e treasure tables handy but just checked the 3.5 ones & it's more than a bit disingenous to compare a +2 weapon to robe of the archmagi since +2 weapons aren't on table 7-29 major wondrous items where you can find total trash like a +5 tome.[spoiler="Table 7-29"]Item Market PriceDimensional shackles 28,000 gpFigurine of wondrous power, obsidian steed 28,500 gpDrums of panic 30,000 gpIoun stone, orange 30,000 gpIoun stone, pale green prism 30,000 gpLantern of revealing 30,000 gpRobe of blending 30,000 gpAmulet of natural armor +4 32,000 gpAmulet of proof against detection and location 35,000 gpCarpet of flying, 5 ft. by 10 ft. 35,000 gpGolem manual, iron 35,000 gpAmulet of health +6 36,000 gpBelt of giant Strength +6 36,000 gpBracers of armor +6 36,000 gpCloak of Charisma +6 36,000 gpGloves of Dexterity +6 36,000 gpHeadband of intellect +6 36,000 gpIoun stone, vibrant purple prism 36,000 gpPearl of power, 6th-level spell 36,000 gpPeriapt of Wisdom +6 36,000 gpScarab of protection 38,000 gpIoun stone, lavender and green ellipsoid 40,000 gpRing gates 40,000 gpCrystal ball 42,000 gpGolem manual, greater stone 44,000 gpOrb of storms 48,000 gpBoots of teleportation 49,000 gpBracers of armor +7 49,000 gpPearl of power, 7th-level spell 49,000 gpAmulet of natural armor +5 50,000 gpCloak of displacement, major 50,000 gpCrystal ball with see invisibility 50,000 gpHorn of Valhalla 50,000 gpCrystal ball with detect thoughts 51,000 gpCarpet of flying, 6 ft. by 9 ft. 53,000 gpAmulet of mighty fists +3 54,000 gpWings of flying 54,000 gpCloak of etherealness 55,000 gpDaern’s instant fortress 55,000 gpManual of bodily health +2 55,000 gpManual of gainful exercise +2 55,000 gpManual of quickness in action +2 55,000 gpTome of clear thought +2 55,000 gpTome of leadership and influence +2 55,000 gpTome of understanding +2 55,000 gpEyes of charming 56,000 gpRobe of stars 58,000 gpCarpet of flying, 10 ft. by 10 ft. 60,000 gpDarkskull 60,000 gpCube of force 62,000 gpBracers of armor +8 64,000 gpPearl of power, 8th-level spell 64,000 gpCrystal ball with telepathy 70,000 gpHorn of blasting, greater 70,000 gpPearl of power, two spells 70,000 gpHelm of teleportation 73,500 gpGem of seeing 75,000 gpRobe of the archmagi 75,000 gpMantle of faith 76,000 gpCrystal ball with true seeing 80,000 gpPearl of power, 9th-level spell 81,000 gpWell of many worlds 82,000 gpManual of bodily health +3 82,500 gpManual of gainful exercise +3 82,500 gpManual of quickness in action +3 82,500 gpTome of clear thought +3 82,500 gpTome of leadership and influence +3 82,500 gpTome of understanding +3 82,500 gpApparatus of Kwalish 90,000 gpMantle of spell resistance 90,000 gpMirror of opposition 92,000 gpStrand of prayer beads, greater 95,800 gpAmulet of mighty fists +4 96,000 gpEyes of petrification 98,000 gpBowl of commanding water elementals 100,000 gpBrazier of commanding fire elementals 100,000 gpCenser of controlling air elementals 100,000 gpStone of controlling earth elementals 100,000 gpManual of bodily health +4 110,000 gpManual of gainful exercise +4 110,000 gpManual of quickness in action +4 110,000 gpTome of clear thought +4 110,000 gpTome of leadership and influence +4 110,000 gpTome of understanding +4 110,000 gpAmulet of the planes 120,000 gpRobe of eyes 120,000 gpHelm of brilliance 125,000 gpManual of bodily health +5 137,500 gpManual of gainful exercise +5 137,500 gpManual of quickness in action +5 137,500 gpTome of clear thought +5 137,500 gpTome of leadership and influence +5 137,500 gpTome of understanding +5 137,500 gpEfreeti bottle 145,000 gpAmulet of mighty fists +5 150,000 gpChaos diamond 160,000 gpCubic gate 164,000 gpIron flask 170,000 gpMirror of mental prowess 175,000 gpMirror of life trapping 200,000 gp[/spoiler]0There is a staff of the magi but it doesn't appear to have a gp value for crafting or seem to show up on treasure tables*.  In the 5e dmg the legendary robe of the archmagi is on dmg pg 194 but does not appear to be in the treasure tables. The merely rare +2 weapon on dmg pg213 is on 1-11 of table G which can be called as early as dmg137 treasure hoard  challenge zero - 4 & hoard challenge 5-10.* perhaps it's been too many years to find them</blockquote>

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