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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Darrin Drader" data-source="post: 1308287" data-attributes="member: 7394">Which is exactly why this conversation is pointless. Keep in mind that many novels published in 1954 don't hold up to modern scrutiny because the novel itself is still a relatively new literary form and was undergoing a great deal of refinement during that time. It is currently only 300 years old, but its only during the 20th century that they became as numerous and as popular as they currently are. Many of the earliest novels were romances, while certain authors, such as Joyce and Wolfe, decided to use it as their means of exploring stream of consciousness. Although there were some novels that predate the release of the Lord of the Rings that made a great deal of progress in defining things like character development, which is used is most successful modern novels, there were still a great many novels that were very well received that were extremely dry and lacking by today's standards.Tolkien was interested in creating a world, a language, and a mythos. The Lord of the Rings is based on stories he used to tell his children to get them to bed at night. He was a professor of literature who was writing a text. You won't find modern character development because it wasn't his intent to provide you with that. You won't find perfect reasoning behind all events because he was telling of a great adventure where not all things happened through the skill and forethought of the main characters. In short, it is what it is, and dissecting it with the same tools that you would any standard novel doesn't work. This thread, right from its inception and its premise is ignorant and offensive. On the other hand, if you want to start a new thread that is not intended to belittle the Lord of the Rings as a work, but compare and contrast it to epics like Beowulf, the Illiad, Canterbury Tales, and the Bible, then I would be interested in this discussion.</blockquote>

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