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A custom PC class, the Noble; critiques please?
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<blockquote data-quote="Arkhandus" data-source="post: 1622821" data-attributes="member: 13966"><p>Thanks for more feedback! I'll alter the format of my first post and change the text of some abilities for clarity. As noted in the foreward, I designed this Noble class to be a more balanced and realistic class than Rokugan's Courtier. The Courtier has too many abilities that should be magical due to their power and the type of effects they have, yet it is a mundane class (as it should be). And I've seen firsthand how overpowering the Courtier's massive social skill bonuses can be (in the Oriental Adventures campaign I ran, a 6th-level Courtier had a little over +20 on all Diplomacy checks, even when not using his Voice ability to add a further +6 on the check once per day). I do see now though that once one of my Nobles reaches 4th-level his or her Social Grace and Sly Tongue do become about as powerful as the Courtier's Voice, Talent, and Grace abilities....I'll have to fix that. I feel the Courtier class to be overpowered in social situations unless the player is forced to roleplay every bit of their early +20 or greater bonus on social skill checks, which would be all but impossible. The Courtier is also too mystical in its abilities even though they're technically mundane, somehow.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Arkhandus, post: 1622821, member: 13966"] Thanks for more feedback! I'll alter the format of my first post and change the text of some abilities for clarity. As noted in the foreward, I designed this Noble class to be a more balanced and realistic class than Rokugan's Courtier. The Courtier has too many abilities that should be magical due to their power and the type of effects they have, yet it is a mundane class (as it should be). And I've seen firsthand how overpowering the Courtier's massive social skill bonuses can be (in the Oriental Adventures campaign I ran, a 6th-level Courtier had a little over +20 on all Diplomacy checks, even when not using his Voice ability to add a further +6 on the check once per day). I do see now though that once one of my Nobles reaches 4th-level his or her Social Grace and Sly Tongue do become about as powerful as the Courtier's Voice, Talent, and Grace abilities....I'll have to fix that. I feel the Courtier class to be overpowered in social situations unless the player is forced to roleplay every bit of their early +20 or greater bonus on social skill checks, which would be all but impossible. The Courtier is also too mystical in its abilities even though they're technically mundane, somehow. [/QUOTE]
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