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<blockquote data-quote="Fast Learner" data-source="post: 5683511" data-attributes="member: 649"><p>Some other possibilities I've considered: <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The wall is proof against the Others but different magic -- from the Red God, or dragon fire, or other magic from Essos like that in Quarth -- might take down the wall, or enough of it.<br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">While the Others themselves cannot cross the wall, the wights they create obviously can, and stay animated in the wall and south of it; with the massive creation of new wights in the various events in the latter part of the book, an army of creatures that can only be stopped by fire or total dismemberment might be all the Others would ever need, especially if the south doesn't get its crap together.<br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><s>The story that the magic of the wall prevents the Others from crossing simply isn't true; rather, the great efforts of Azor Ahai and a bunch of obsidian blades did enough damage and sufficiently drove them back that they haven't been ready to attack again until now. 8,000 years of oral tradition and some copied scrolls and books (at best) is a long time to get things wrong.</s> (<strong>Edit: I just remembered that Coldhands was unable to cross the wall, making this much less likely</strong>.)<br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Related, the Others attack when the cycle that creates especially long and dark winters reaches a point of maximum length, something that just hasn't happened for 8,000 years, and the time is again come. Who knows how time passes for them, perhaps a few millennia isn't that long. <s>The wall appears to have been effective simply because it's never before been the right time.</s> (<strong>Edit, see above</strong>.)</li> </ul><p>There are plenty of other possibilities, I'm sure, but those occur to me now.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fast Learner, post: 5683511, member: 649"] Some other possibilities I've considered:[list] [*]The wall is proof against the Others but different magic -- from the Red God, or dragon fire, or other magic from Essos like that in Quarth -- might take down the wall, or enough of it. [*]While the Others themselves cannot cross the wall, the wights they create obviously can, and stay animated in the wall and south of it; with the massive creation of new wights in the various events in the latter part of the book, an army of creatures that can only be stopped by fire or total dismemberment might be all the Others would ever need, especially if the south doesn't get its crap together. [*][S]The story that the magic of the wall prevents the Others from crossing simply isn't true; rather, the great efforts of Azor Ahai and a bunch of obsidian blades did enough damage and sufficiently drove them back that they haven't been ready to attack again until now. 8,000 years of oral tradition and some copied scrolls and books (at best) is a long time to get things wrong.[/S] ([B]Edit: I just remembered that Coldhands was unable to cross the wall, making this much less likely[/B].) [*]Related, the Others attack when the cycle that creates especially long and dark winters reaches a point of maximum length, something that just hasn't happened for 8,000 years, and the time is again come. Who knows how time passes for them, perhaps a few millennia isn't that long. [S]The wall appears to have been effective simply because it's never before been the right time.[/S] ([B]Edit, see above[/B].)[/list] There are plenty of other possibilities, I'm sure, but those occur to me now. [/QUOTE]
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