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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guest 7037866" data-source="post: 9581121">Somthing I didn't realize until examining the conditions is neither Stunned nor Incapacitated (part of Stunned) reduces speed to 0.So, regardless of success or failure, the first turn after dropping to 0 HP you can always stand up. I am not fond of that.Now, [USER=6807784]@Shardstone[/USER] makes a good point, but I think you can't do Prone until the end of your next turn (when you drop to 0 HP) because then there is no chance to get up the first turn...I think we could add your Speed is 0 to the failure result to this:Failure. Your Speed is 0 and have the Stunned Condition until the end of your next turn.This way, with success, you are stable and can get up. With failure you're stunned and remain prone since your Speed is 0 and you cannot stand up.Of course, this means there is no option where you can get up, but remain Stunned...Thoughts???</blockquote>