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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guest 7037866" data-source="post: 9583636">I cannot speak for [USER=6779196]@Charlaquin[/USER], but for myself any bonus to a saving throw would add here, as normal.Yes, Paladins don't die easily when "in the hands of Fate."Unless the fighter has +8 on his save somehow... The only instance I can think of this happening is a Paladin +5 CHA, Ring of Protection +1, Cloak of Protection +1, and Luck Stone +1. There might be more in 2024, but I have no idea what there is.Otherwise, eventually the cycle will end and the creature to move on to Unconscious, and fail the save again (eventually) and die.</blockquote>