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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 5986956" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>While I can't agree that 4e was that much more of a change from 3e than 3e was from 2e, I don't see why the /name/ should make that huge a difference. If Pathfinder or some other retro-clone strikes you as a better spiritually successor to D&D than the last ed of D&D, by all means, buy and play it, instead, but why campaign to destroy that edition of D&D for those who do like it?</p><p></p><p>Well 3e was a great improvement at the time, and I still have good things to say about it's multi-classing system (most recently in discussion with Pemerton and Lanefan, oddly enough, in the <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/new-horizons-upcoming-edition-d-d/327336-how-much-should-5e-aim-balance-39.html#post5986930" target="_blank">How much should 5e aim at balance?</a> thread) and the class design of the fighter and sorcerer. And, 1e AD&D will always have that special nostalgia for me - I guess it's just a much less intense nostalgia than that of retro-clone fans. </p><p></p><p>But, ultimately, I have no special attachment to the /name/ - if 4e and Pathfinder were to swap name-plates & IP, I'd follow the best system, not the most familiar name. Most of the IP of D&D is tied up in settings, which I have never had much interest in.</p><p></p><p>I don't care if it's huge or tiny. The way things were before the 5e announcement, everyone had what they wanted. The way it's shaping up post-5e, they're the only ones set to lose anything. Fans of all other editions have something to fall back on that's already receiving ongoing support.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 5986956, member: 996"] While I can't agree that 4e was that much more of a change from 3e than 3e was from 2e, I don't see why the /name/ should make that huge a difference. If Pathfinder or some other retro-clone strikes you as a better spiritually successor to D&D than the last ed of D&D, by all means, buy and play it, instead, but why campaign to destroy that edition of D&D for those who do like it? Well 3e was a great improvement at the time, and I still have good things to say about it's multi-classing system (most recently in discussion with Pemerton and Lanefan, oddly enough, in the [URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/new-horizons-upcoming-edition-d-d/327336-how-much-should-5e-aim-balance-39.html#post5986930"]How much should 5e aim at balance?[/URL] thread) and the class design of the fighter and sorcerer. And, 1e AD&D will always have that special nostalgia for me - I guess it's just a much less intense nostalgia than that of retro-clone fans. But, ultimately, I have no special attachment to the /name/ - if 4e and Pathfinder were to swap name-plates & IP, I'd follow the best system, not the most familiar name. Most of the IP of D&D is tied up in settings, which I have never had much interest in. I don't care if it's huge or tiny. The way things were before the 5e announcement, everyone had what they wanted. The way it's shaping up post-5e, they're the only ones set to lose anything. Fans of all other editions have something to fall back on that's already receiving ongoing support. [/QUOTE]
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