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Message: <blockquote data-quote="thecasualoblivion" data-source="post: 5987997" data-attributes="member: 59096">1. Attack bonus didn't lead into multiple attacks before 3E2. 3E had ability score damage4. Unless your touch AC was your defense against that spell5-6. Rituals started at level 1 in 4E, cantrips at level 1, and non-combat utility spells started at level 2.7. Tenser's Floating Disc and Mordenkainen's Faithful Hound, Bigby's Iron Grasp, and Evard's Black Tentacles are all 4E spells, among others. 8-10. Many would call these changes improvements.12. Yuck14. These items in 4E were exceedingly rare, and not indicative of 4E magic items as a whole.15. This is only different in 4E combined with a lack of imagination. Scorching Burst lighting thatched roof cottages on fire and such.16. Non-AEDU classes were first introduced in PHB3, and many varied kinds after Essentials.18. How is SR different than simply having higher defenses?For somebody who keeps talking about what is the "One True D&D", you don't seem to know much about it?Mod Note:  Please see my note below.  ~Umbran</blockquote>